two trees, same stump

Bushler · Oct 9, 2008

No, red fir is Douglas fir, the white fir I'm refering to is Grand fir. It will heal similar to Doug fir, with maybe a small localized blem.

Most of the hemlock and spruce has stump rot by the time it reaches 36" diameter whether its been mechanicaly damaged or not. Just the nature of the beast.

Bushler · Oct 9, 2008

Ooops, I should clarify that, the spruce and hemlock HERE on the SW Oregon coast, will ususally show stump rot when they exceed 36".

Humptulips · Oct 9, 2008

Bushler said:
Ooops, I should clarify that, the spruce and hemlock HERE on the SW Oregon coast, will ususally show stump rot when they exceed 36".

When I logged the back 40 or I should say the back 7 there were spruce up to 80 inches without a speck of rot. Some of the high country hemlock around here grows real big with no rot but the coast stuff like you said.
I logged a unit on Higley Peak of big hemlock with no rot. It was incredible, 240 thousand to the acre. No kidding, best timber I ever saw and I didn't take one picture. What a moron!

Ivan H. · Oct 9, 2008

Humptulips said:
You're on the right track with the hemlock and spruce. I found when we cut timber that had been thinned even a small marm knifed off a bigger tree would cause rot to start. After only 4 years we observed stain had run up hemlock as far as 16 feet.

Maybe I'm a bit confused when you speak of white fir. Aroud here it is a generic term for true firs such as noble fir and Pacific Silver fir. It rots as bad or worse then hemlock so I wouldn't remove one marm from a white fir but of course they are not prone to marms anyway, at least from what I've seen.
Maybe you are talking about Doug fir when you say white and red?
I have heard people differentiate between yellow and red fir both would be doug fir.

When you guys say hemlock,do you me western helmlock? We don't have any here to far inland and to high elevation.No I know a doug fir ,bottle brush looking neddles and pink heart wood and darker bark then White fir,or shasta red fir a.k.a silver tip.We have a lot of different speices.I'm going to have to go up there and check it out .It would be neat to see the differences. Every time I go to the coast here it blows my mind it's like a different world.

Humptulips · Oct 9, 2008

Ivan H. said:
When you guys say hemlock,do you me western helmlock? We don't have any here to far inland and to high elevation.No I know a doug fir ,bottle brush looking neddles and pink heart wood and darker bark then White fir,or shasta red fir a.k.a silver tip.We have a lot of different speices.I'm going to have to go up there and check it out .It would be neat to see the differences. Every time I go to the coast here it blows my mind it's like a different world.

Yep, western hemlock.
I recently spent a couple days in SW OR and it seemed like a different world.Couldn't get over how dry it was.