using 10mm beeline for split tail(or other prussic cords)

[freeweight]

for an open system ,will this work well dont see why it wouldnt im justcurious

this would be for BH when removing ,how well dose beeline stand up to burning out of the tree not that i burn out very often if at all

thoughts on them

 

[stihlman95]

i just bought my beeline from wesspur and cost $36. it is great. it dont burn almost at all. just make sure you have a good rope with a good amount of wax texture so it can slide much easier. the 10mm prusik can work on any rope larger in size. its only used as a closed circuit in declining. wont work for a fall arrest

 

[freeweight]

wont work for fall arrest!!!? your kidding right ,this stuff is close to over 2-1/2 ton breaking strength please tell me where u get your info...

if its only used for closed system why do they sell it as a split tail with tight eye splice on one end? this would be for an open system.........

 

[freeweight]

ok i took my EtE prussik cord just for the hell of it and tied a blakes (open) holy crap did that thing get tight..my climbing line isnt much bigger than the 10mm cord ,it seemed to glaze rather easily as well

im thinking of just using a climbing line with a aluminum snap like i have always used,i didnt see any improvement switching to a prussic cord,just made it more difficult

unless using a closed system i wouldnt recomend a beeline for a split tail open system....ever

 

[moss]

unless using a closed system i wouldnt recomend a beeline for a split tail open system....ever

Agreed, 10mm beeline tied Blake's on an 11-13mm climbing rope grabs too hard. Using same construction and diameter rope for a Blake's/split tail works so well, no need to improve on it that I can tell.
-AJ

 

[freeweight]

enjoy your vids on youtube^^ would like to try out a "new tribe" saddle

i went out of my way to learn all these "advanced hitches" and been playing with them in non working enviroment with ete 10mm beeline ,although it was fun realized we do take downs and setting the line etc before entering just takes alot of time...

right now im thinking ,just buy a 150ft quality heat resistant rope the extra 30 ft will make up for the hunks i might cut out here and there ,thats around 100bucks

or get a split tail and rope

i like the strength of safty blue and how heat resistant is it exactly?

 

[moss]

right now im thinking ,just buy a 150ft quality heat resistant rope the extra 30 ft will make up for the hunks i might cut out here and there ,thats around 100bucks

or get a split tail and rope

i like the strength of safty blue and how heat resistant is it exactly?

All arb ropes made for climbing (like Safety Blue) are made of braided polyester so they're all the same as far as heat resistance goes (or lack of it). Some heat resistance differences in the rope construction maybe, 12 -strand vs. 16-strand vs. 24-strand but the melting point of polyester is what it is.

If you're worried about glazing the rope just slow down a little descending on the hitch or rappel out on a doubled or single rope using an eight or other device.

Split tail will definitely reduce the need to cut of the ends of your main rope.

If I'm going to do a long or fast descent on a hitch (split tail or otherwise) I'll loosen the coils a bit and take some of the friction with a grippy glove (Atlas), wears them out quicker but then again they're super cheap compared to rope.

Glad you're finding the vids useful.
-AJ

 

[freeweight]

are you in tree service or?just wondering how that saddle does in work situations

also i noticed u dont really have set hitch or maybe u do an i dont notice it is there one u prefer over the others

 

[moss]

are you in tree service or?just wondering how that saddle does in work situations

also i noticed u dont really have set hitch or maybe u do an i dont notice it is there one u prefer over the others

I'm not a work climber, but I climb a lot though. I know a few arborists who climb NT harnesses, they like them. If you have a lot of hang time, cabling that sort of thing NT harness is excellent. If your feet are on the tree alot NT might not be what you need.

XT is my hitch, sometimes I tie a Distel if I'm mixing up DdRT and SRT when I want the hitch extension really short when it's loaded. XT is basically a VT except the tails cross and change direction (like a Blake's) just below the coils then braid. It sets a little quicker than a VT for me but self tends really nice like a VT.
-AJ