vermeer chipper

[treevet]

i have used both brush bandit and vermeer extensively,
given the choice i would pick brush bandit hands down,
if you maintain them regulary grease etc.. they will last for yonks ( a technical irish term for ages ) however if you are a bit lazy they will burn bearings etc..
they are more rugged and better built and i love the roller crush and winches you can get on them.
the vermeer bc 1000 is a very popular model over here and is a good chipper
as most of the firms here are slack arse lazy ho-ha's( more tech jargen)
and maintainence is least proirity the vermeer do quite well as they
can take the neglect of grease and some T.L.C,,
that said they really are no match for the bandit.

Trying to mix a little humor with disagreement with the last statement.
Please note I did not say "lazy slack arsed" ho-ha's whatever they are.

Let's hear a little more refined comparison rather than "they are better built"
"love the roller crush" "love the winches" both companies have these.

Is your experience with the little BC1000? What BB are you comparing it to?

The larger model Vermeers are inferior to no chippers IMO. They do all a chipper can do with current technology. I have used or seen run all the large model Vermeers and I have a BC 1250 (110hp turbo diesel) and BC2000 (200hp Cummins). I am sure it will match anything you have chipped with. Very little maint other than grease and very well built.

 

[Little Monkey]

My experience is with 6,10,12,18, inch vermeers mostly with the 10 + 12 inch models and not just at a trade show or open day but for weeks or months and they ARE GOOD CHIPPERS, i did not know you could get winches or roller crushers on the vermeers, but that is more then likely because of the different spec's here in Ireland/Europe.
As for the brush bandits i have worked with the 6,12,15,18,30/29, inch models, mostly the 12,15+18 inch models, and again long term. My team ran the 18 for a year and now its mostly the 15 inch bandit now i am home.
As for the "little bc1000" i dont use one, instead i opt for the Schliesing 6 inch for smaller Jobs which surprisingly given its smaller diameter will chip better and faster then the bc 1000.
In short my research is done by experience.
so in my opinion the brush bandit is the much better chipper then the vermeer taking into account the vermeer is a good chipper

 

[treevet]

Dude, you're only 29? I have been hammering brush into the throat of chippers for 11 years longer than you have been alive.

Way better post than the last one tho, and I respect your opinion now fwiw.

 

[Little Monkey]

yes i am only 29, a mear babe in arms, but i have always been lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time and hooked up with some fantastic crews and learned alot in a relatively short time, i have always been thrown in the deep end and always came up swimming so more and more opportunities would be sent my way etc etc,, I was dismantling trees with cranes when i was only climbing for about 9 months and dismantling trees with choppers after about a year, i have got experience some guys/girls could only dream of
only because of hard work and lots of luck, like i said right place at the right time, now i run my own business and am putting my experience to work.

 

[treevet]

yes i am only 29, a mear babe in arms, but i have always been lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time and hooked up with some fantastic crews and learned alot in a relatively short time, i have always been thrown in the deep end and always came up swimming so more and more opportunities would be sent my way etc etc,, I was dismantling trees with cranes when i was only climbing for about 9 months and dismantling trees with choppers after about a year, i have got experience some guys/girls could only dream of
only because of hard work and lots of luck, like i said right place at the right time, now i run my own business and am putting my experience to work.

Keep up the good work Little Monkey. What's a chopper?

 

[Little Monkey]

helicopter

 

[treevet]

Interesting...we talking logging or picking apart decurrent residential trees?

Got any picts.?

 

[Little Monkey]

only touched off logging a few days at most,,
it was mostly all tree dismantling in nature reserves, same as a crane only
safer and ALOT faster, only pics i have are hard copies from a disposable camera , i will try to scan them and see if i can load them up,,

 

[Wolfking42084]

little monkey,
what is the little chipper that you said you would rather have than the vermeer bc1000? Most 6" chippers I have been around wouldn't touch the bc1000. The closest being the bearcat in the 6".

 

[Little Monkey]

it is a schliesing 330, they used to be called premier, they are german chippers and the schliesing is a huge leap forward from the original premier,
yes the diameter is a lot smaller then the bc1000 but its an animal and the chip quality is excellent, if you are doing larger takedowns and are not to worried about firewood then i would stick to the vermeer because of the bigger infeed but for general domestic work the schliesing is fab, its also alot lighter so you can walk it into tighter spots nice and easy

 

[fishercat]

this may not mean anything to you.

i noticed at the Hartford Tree show in November of '07,the Vermeer display was pretty much empty except for their staff.Bandit didn't have enough staff for the people interested in their product.

 

[brushbandit]

Bandit is the preffered chipper in the industry. I see more Bandits than anything else. Vermeer seems to always have issues, the verticle feed wheels getting wound up with debris, drums failing, so on and so on. Why does Vermeer even use vertical feed wheels? I gaurantee you there are more Bandit chippers in the field than any other and theres a reason for that.

 

[fishercat]

yep,we got bandits.

autofeed has always worked.i actually like my Vermeer bc625.since i have fixed all Vermeers mistakes,it's a nice machine.

 

[capetrees]

I'de like to see a fair comparison between the models in terms of price. What is the price comparison between a BC 1000xl with a 3.3 cummins and a Bandit of the same caliber, 12" capability, same motor and all, apples to apples. That's what I'd like to see. If the Vermeers cost more, thats going to be the bottom line reason. There are a lot of companies out there composed of guys that think they can jump into the biz and how do you do it as a start up? On the cheap. Anyone have the numbers?

 

[custom8726]

I have spent the last 12 years running both vermeer and Brush Bandit chippers ranging from 6"-18" in the residential sector. The only Vermeer I ever enjoyed running was the 1800 W/winch. The 1000 was nice but had to many electronic gremlins poping up all the time, Also the winch is super slow compared to the Bandits I have run. The 1230's and 1250's are ok for brush but the 250XP Bandit is 100 times better IMHO, and atleast 20 times better then the 1000 IMHO.... Currently we run a 1890 bandit W/winch and the J.D. Diesel, The thing is an animal!! We Demo'd the Vermeer 1800 W/winch and the 1890 the same week before we chose the 1890 for 3k more if thats any indication of our preferance... For the residential sector (IF I could only have one) My vote would be the Bandit 250XP (DISK)-(DIESEL) Its fairly light compared to the 18" chippers and the disk style packs the chip trucks tighter with a better chip.

 

[Wolfking42084]

I've been hooked on bandit for years now and love their machines. Given the choice, I would pick their 250 machine. I have been using the vermeer and was not as disappointed as I thought i'd be. I don't know the price difference, just know my choice and that i won't hate vermeer anymore.

 

[treevet]

Nope but I have a bc2000 with `1550 hours for sale.

Just curious...but what year, what engine, how much, why selling.

 

[woodchux]

http://radioremote.com/home.htm

great product.

How much are those puppies? i priced the OEM around $450.

 

[jmack]

vermeer 1850a its big but mine was brutallly used when i got it and i have shamefully beaten it and it is still just great can not speak to the small models

 

[fishercat]

$250 if i recall.

How much are those puppies? i priced the OEM around $450.

way cheaper than OEM.not to mention thse folks warranty and repair their's if there is a problem.