Vintage saw score this weekend

[Eccentric]

I hear ya brother! That's why we keep the vintage, and muscle thread's up, and running! Rather re-read my own post's, and thread's than read about I wish the 20 inch chain saw's all had compression release's! WTF? Ha ha! kid's these day's. Cut some good Madrone with the Husky Saturday. Had a little gas in the bar oil. Seem's like once in awhile after the bumpy trailer ride. Ran flawleesly! How big cc was the homelite 2100? the automatic. P.S Do drop by the muscle thread's, and would love some more vintage pic's!!

I need to shoot pics of more of my saws. The 2000/2100/3100G Homelites are 7.0ci. That's 114 or 115 cc depending on who you talk to...

 

[Nardoo]

Oh, that Remington with the fat bar is one sexy lady.:smile2:

Al.

 

[NORMZILLA44]

Aaron remember that saw I seized up, and was trying to identify that I dumpe'd year's ago? It unfortunately was a 2100. Shoulda kept it live, and learn.

 

[madhatte]

Yowzah! Nice haul, JP! Ain't but a few in there I'm not at least a bit envious of!

('specially that Remington)

 

[Arrowhead]

That should keep you busy a few days!!! Incredible score!!!

 

[Justsaws]

They're great saws for sure. Not quite sure why they didn't sell better than they did. The XL12/SXL family outlasted the XL76-130 series by decades. They're handy, light little buggers with good poop. BTW-there was quite a run of CHEAP NOS pistons and cylinders for those saws on feebay last year. Some are still there. I saw several NOS XL76-130 jugs for $20 or so........

I have asked a few older ex Homelite dealers about the sales of those saws, mainly because as successful as Homelite was around here the XL76-130 saws are almost rare.
They would be rare in complete running good conditions where as the XL12 are common in all conditions.

The answer paraphrased by me is that they XL76-130 series was too problematic for the money and did not translate well to repeat consumer/commercial business. I can say that I have never seen a runner that was not a rebuild. Without a doubt the hardest size of Homelites for me to find in the area. These fellows sold tons of saws but not many of those. Some of those XL76-130s are little screamers.

 

[Eccentric]

Aaron remember that saw I seized up, and was trying to identify that I dumpe'd year's ago? It unfortunately was a 2100. Shoulda kept it live, and learn.

Oh Norm............that makes me sick. Water under the bridge though. At least you made up for it by hooking me up with two cool McCullochs and John's 750. You dumped the whole saw?????:msp_unsure:

I have asked a few older ex Homelite dealers about the sales of those saws, mainly because as successful as Homelite was around here the XL76-130 saws are almost rare.
They would be rare in complete running good conditions where as the XL12 are common in all conditions.

The answer paraphrased by me is that they XL76-130 series was too problematic for the money and did not translate well to repeat consumer/commercial business. I can say that I have never seen a runner that was not a rebuild. Without a doubt the hardest size of Homelites for me to find in the area. These fellows sold tons of saws but not many of those. Some of those XL76-130s are little screamers.

Thanks for the info. That confirmed my suspicions...

 

[NORMZILLA44]

Yeah I know Aaron make's me sick too. Wasn't the fanatic like I am now, and dindn't know so much was rebuidable, and fixable. Think I was 23 or so. Looking in one of these vintage thread's I saw one, and remembered that was it exactly. Brought back the picture. It had a 36in roller nose bar. It was cherry until the flood water hit, and cleane'd it out best I knew at the time. Let it sit, and re-cleane'd it. Got it running great, and 3rd cut seized it up. Sad thing if I still had it woulda given it to you.

 

[67L36Driver]

Now we have hijacked the OP's thread.

I have asked a few older ex Homelite dealers about the sales of those saws, mainly because as successful as Homelite was around here the XL76-130 saws are almost rare.
They would be rare in complete running good conditions where as the XL12 are common in all conditions.

The answer paraphrased by me is that they XL76-130 series was too problematic for the money and did not translate well to repeat consumer/commercial business. I can say that I have never seen a runner that was not a rebuild. Without a doubt the hardest size of Homelites for me to find in the area. These fellows sold tons of saws but not many of those. Some of those XL76-130s are little screamers.

Just my observations.
First run had three screws holding the 'magneto backplate' in and later models have five, because they backed out and jamed the flywheel most likely.

Cylinder spigot went from 1 15/16" dia. to 2". Dunno why.

The crankcase was cast with the major half of the fuel tank. Really a complex casting for the time. That translates to more scrap/flawed castings. And, the crankcase heats up the fuel fast.

But the powerhead is a full two pounds lighter than an XL-12 and 1 1/2" narrower (6 5/8" vrs. 8 1/8") by my measurment.

Like comparing a late '60's Camaro to a Chevelle with the same drive train.

I have one too many XL-12's and 'need' an XL-104(ish).

 

[Ambull]

Now we have hijacked the OP's thread.

Hey Hijack away.... no worries!!!

I think most of the Homelites in there are very rebuildable. Almost all of these saws had just one stupid problem when brought in, and then they sat for 30+ years. I am truly amazed at how few cracked parts there are on these saws. The Northern east coast loggers were much easier on their saws than the PNW guys. Whenever I get a west coast saw, it pretty much always has cracked and broken parts on it.

There were 63 saws total in this haul. If nothing else I should be able to do very well parting out these babies, and still keeping some for myself.

 

[Eccentric]

Now we have hijacked the OP's thread.



Just my observations.
First run had three screws holding the 'magneto backplate' in and later models have five, because they backed out and jamed the flywheel most likely.

Cylinder spigot went from 1 15/16" dia. to 2". Dunno why.

The crankcase was cast with the major half of the fuel tank. Really a complex casting for the time. That translates to more scrap/flawed castings. And, the crankcase heats up the fuel fast.

But the powerhead is a full two pounds lighter than an XL-12 and 1 1/2" narrower (6 5/8" vrs. 8 1/8") by my measurment.

Like comparing a late '60's Camaro to a Chevelle with the same drive train.

I have one too many XL-12's and 'need' an XL-104(ish).

I didn't know there were two cylinder bolt patterns on these saws. That could make things confusing....

 

[67L36Driver]

Sixty three saws,........................................................................Oh my.

I didn't know there were two cylinder bolt patterns on these saws. That could make things confusing....

Not the bolt pattern but the cylinder spigot. The part that extends into the crankcase.
View attachment 193793

The early run small spigot goes into the three screw crankcase.
View attachment 193794

 

[bullseye13]

Very nice haul, rep coming.


From what I can find it looks like Esak was a rebranded Indian chainsaw built 1961-62.




Your "crazy" chain is called scratcher chain and it is horrible to cut with and/or have to sharpen.

Fairbanks Morse was a company that built recoil starter systems, don't think they built any whole saws.

This stuff is cake to sharpen and cuts pretty darn good! Iver sharpened hundreds and hundreds of links of it, if you do it per the manufacturers instructions, it really cuts well in super hard wood, like hickory. Iver done many chains like this for my Malls, and i was impressed. Just use a raker file for a stihl.

OH, and to the OP, if you would be willing to let the Mall go, I am a collector who puts them back in running condition, i would be interested in it and i get up to Honesdale every so often, drop me a PM.

 

[jra1100]

Ooh crap, wanted to rep ya but I gotta spread it around. Hell of a score. JR

 

[NORMZILLA44]

Scratcher chain WTF? Never seen or heard of it. What was the purpose. Almost look's like grind only, can you handfile it?

 

[Eccentric]

Sixty three saws,........................................................................Oh my.




Not the bolt pattern but the cylinder spigot. The part that extends into the crankcase.

Thanks for the info Carl. Do you know what model # saws in that series had each crankcase/cylinder? I have a buddy who has boxes of old Homelite microfiche's and service bulletins. Bet the info is in there somewhere....

 

[67L36Driver]

Thanks for the info Carl. Do you know what model # saws in that series had each crankcase/cylinder? I have a buddy who has boxes of old Homelite microfiche's and service bulletins. Bet the info is in there somewhere....

Nope, but I bet Chainsawlady would have some information. Send her a PM.
Carl.