VT-hitch users: beware!
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treemandan
Tree Freak
Also I would say the VT is one of the most confusing friction hitches out there so that in itself would lead to people having problems which would lead to bad things being said about it. Tied right ( and its easy to tie wrong) the thing is fine.
treemandan
Tree Freak
:agree2:
Thank you Thank you. My best one yet I believe... think about it a while longer.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
when i worked for bartlett we where not allowed to climb on the VT. the company considered it unsafe. distel all the way for me
Nailsbeats
Addicted to ArboristSite
I think it has to do with the way the braids open up when slack. A stick or something could wedge in there and you'd be going for a ride. That of course is also the genius of the hitch, slacks easily for self tending. Also, the hitch only works when weighted one direction unlike a true prussic.
The XT variation helps keep the braids together.
The XT variation helps keep the braids together.
Nailsbeats
Addicted to ArboristSite
Thank you Thank you. My best one yet I believe... think about it a while longer.
That was outstanding Dan, made my day. I'll probably borrow it.
The Lawn Shark
ArboristSite Operative
maybe a dumb ? but whats the The XT variation
...only work is tiddler trees with 4" leaders, you big fat boys can't handle the tree top tip toe...!
Hey now! I resemble that remark!
Really? Such an obvious, but brilliant, statement!
Ahh yes.. the "suicide knot", as a friend calls it.
Tends nicely though. Just keep an eye on it... it is french - and we know the deal there!
Tends nicely though. Just keep an eye on it... it is french - and we know the deal there!
I disagree! A blakes hitch is more confusing to tie, and the tail can easily be inserted in the wrong spot.
To get a servicable VT, all you need to do is keep making wraps around the climbing line. [It might not work out the way you want, but it will hold]
Job Corps Tree
ArboristSite Operative
VT Hitch users bewear
It is so good to see how Far we have gone since the Taut line hitch a lot of us were shown as the only way to do it. I looked at this VT when it had other names. I did not care for it.
But wow we have so many to pick from now some are good some not so good
this is great!
We have a Choice and like tools the right one for each job
It is so good to see how Far we have gone since the Taut line hitch a lot of us were shown as the only way to do it. I looked at this VT when it had other names. I did not care for it.
But wow we have so many to pick from now some are good some not so good
this is great!
We have a Choice and like tools the right one for each job
Bermie
Addicted to ArboristSite
You know, that is a funny way to say " come on over". Anyway I am all over the tips.
Glad you guys can take a joke!!! Honestly today I was about 5' off the ground thinning a Pittosporum...next week bucket baby, then back to the 60' ers!
VT all the way...never had a stick or anything get into it...you just have to make keeping and eye on all your attachments an instinctive part of how you work...then barring an absolute disaster...what works for you will keep you in the air!
treemandan
Tree Freak
Ya know, I think you may have something there. Now I'm scared.
This should be standard practice for any REAL climber anyways!
treevet
Addicted to ArboristSite
You would think they would go after the hitch climber or the term or the practice of slack tending thru a pulley. Any hitch that is "tended" this way has the propensity to loosen and when you sit back it may not engage.
Tree climbing is based successfully so much on experience and "feel".
Furthermore so much of all we do (successfully) is based on "conditioned response" and intuitive impulses that will alarm us that "something is not right".
Tree climbing is based successfully so much on experience and "feel".
Furthermore so much of all we do (successfully) is based on "conditioned response" and intuitive impulses that will alarm us that "something is not right".
treesquirrel
ArboristSite Guru
I suspect this is a CYA on sherrills part to avoid liability for indirectly recommending its use where a inexperienced beginner might get hurt or killed.
Me, I have never used it and am perfectly happy with a Schwabish or prussic for my work.
Tobe
ArboristSite Lurker
Guys,
Just got a report on this web based knot tip a few weeks ago from Mahk Adams and haven't had a chance to edit it yet.
I personally wrote the copy several years ago, like early 2000 when the VT was scarcely used or trusted and haven't paid it the deserved attention on our knot page.
I also noticed that some where in the interim a web editor blended the VT and MT graphic without appropriate corresponding text such that viewers see unwoven coils (MT) next to woven coils (VT) without getting the story. Duh.
Thanks for not crucifying SherrillTree for MY mistake. I promise it will be repaired soon ...oh, and a few other knots in need of attention.
Peace
Just got a report on this web based knot tip a few weeks ago from Mahk Adams and haven't had a chance to edit it yet.
I personally wrote the copy several years ago, like early 2000 when the VT was scarcely used or trusted and haven't paid it the deserved attention on our knot page.
I also noticed that some where in the interim a web editor blended the VT and MT graphic without appropriate corresponding text such that viewers see unwoven coils (MT) next to woven coils (VT) without getting the story. Duh.
Thanks for not crucifying SherrillTree for MY mistake. I promise it will be repaired soon ...oh, and a few other knots in need of attention.
Peace
Tobe - - - Thanks for clearing it up! You guys are great at follow through.
FYI - In the interest of site support, another AS member is starting a cool idea (http://www.arboristsite.com/showthread.php?t=134452). If you'd like to participate, I'll be glad to drive the helmet to you (or to Brian at Vermeer) for local site members to sign...
(Sorry for the thread hijack..)
