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Have you guys ever seen one snap? In my limited experience in Socal I have not. They seem to bend quite a bit when the fronds are heavy, especially with high winds but I have never gotten a call to clean up a failed mexican fan palm. But maybe I am wrong. What do you guys think of this one? It's hanging way over a house.View attachment 311050 Customer is thinking removal but I am not sure if it's necessary.
 
no not seen one fail less be extreme storm though as house below 100 % chance it will impact.
So ask your client whats his future plan for his home if its say here stay for over 5 years then check his insurance cover & get your $ quote to remove it and balance the options . If its move house sooner then save his bucks vs the risk but still check that home insurance what will it cover.
 
I'v never seen one fail either, I have seen a few that the head has broke off due to some fungus rot. But even that is rare. I would remove them just because. There just going to get taller, and more expensive to maintain, they harbor all kinds of vermin, Their dirty, and if a frond hit you in the head or face during a wind event it would mess you up. It hard for me to be objective though, I don't like any palm over 10 feet tall.
 
I'v never seen one fail either, I have seen a few that the head has broke off due to some fungus rot. But even that is rare. I would remove them just because. There just going to get taller, and more expensive to maintain, they harbor all kinds of vermin, Their dirty, and if a frond hit you in the head or face during a wind event it would mess you up. It hard for me to be objective though, I don't like any palm over 10 feet tall.

I spent a bit of Thursday dead fronding a few smallish ones in my patch. Good grief them SOB storks have nasty thorns its like a saw fishes beak or nose made sure to handle with care.
I giggle when i see Hollywood movies with people jumping in palm tree tops they really can not do that be all messed up fast

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I've not ever seen one fail, but I've had a couple of terrifying climbs on them. Worst one was about 6 stories tall, and at the head it was only maybe 5 or 6 inches diameter in the trunk. It had a deviation about 15' short of the head, the really tall ones always seem to do that for some reason. I wasn't really that keen to climb it, but there was no bucket access and no other way shy of a helicopter to get it down so I just kept reminding myself that they never fail and it was time to man up. once I was about 2/3 of the way up the thing I was seriously having second thoughts, At that height on such a small stem with no top rope you tend to gaff in a little harder than what you need to, and each time I took a step it seemed the whole thing was wobbling like wet spaghetti, oscilating and shaking around. I kept going against better judgement and eventually got to the head, set a rope in it and felt a little better.

Then the wind started picking up! The first gust pushed the head a loooooooong ways off upright, like maybe 8-10', real slow. That's a whole lot of movement, and when it went, I thought for sure I was dead. I didn't even have the heart to scream, just that sickening feeling in your stomach, knowing that your life is over. But then, it stopped going over.... and started to slowly swing back the other way like a pendulum moving in slow motion. Went way past vertical, and back over the other side. The motion was like the rolling of a ship, and I was feeling sea sick.

Had a tight landing area, hand sawed the fronds off then popped the head out. Gingerly spiked down and blocked down as I went, would have given anything when I was up in that head just to be back on safe ground again. I've been up in big trees in big winds plenty of times and I don't mind the motion but that was way too freaky for me. Never seen one fail though. Would I do it again? No way! Well, maybe

Shaun
 
We pruned a row of 33 palms all about 70' tall. They were all skinned years ago. We 'sounded' them as we did them. Six of them have bad pockets of soft punky rot about 2/3 the way up. We are removing those on Monday. I have seen the heads fail but never a whole palm.
Jeff
 
When I climb those tall skinny one's I keep repeating this mantra: They never break, they never break. It seems to help.
 
that vid was great and your climbers are gutsy brave lads many would pay good $ for a fair ground roller coaster high ride like that.

The first cut he had a tag line on a figure 8 on the palm he was spiked into for some reason, after seeing that I decided against the tag line and let the palm take the load, worked out much better and safer.
 
Dusty as hell, fills the pool up with muck and makes a lot of cleanup. The fronds aren't very heavy at all, the dead ones weigh next to nothing. Still pretty gutsy though. First guy could have saved himself a ride by taking his head out on one of the spare palms. Camera moved, but looks like he gaffed out and probably caught a good slam in the ribs for his troubles
 
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