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I am working on not being a bully,, I think it is working because I have only been lurking,,gonna give Treevet a pass on me,,seems like I need to re-think before I piss a newbie off ,I use a lot of comma's and work too many days a week, I am a short fuse,, I had 5 beers,,so there,
Jeff :p
You could try a bit harder just saying
 
I gonna say that if he welded hardened steel and it held then it was a fluke , when you reheat hardened it actually changes the chemical reaction that hardened it the first place making it like glass , I tried using old chipper knives to makes a new cutting edge for a bobcat bucket , out of 7 or so blades 3 made it more then a few weeks , and I could basically of shattered them as well , that being said I welded hardened to hardened using a basic 6011 hot rod . I was a certified welder back when I was iron working and I know guys who wouldn't of thought twice about trying it , the next time I see my BIL I will ask he is a pipeliner and pretty inventive when it comes to that

When you heat hardened steel, aren't you just taking the temper out of it and just softening it (annealing)? I'm not a metallurgist and don't have the welding experience you do, but have made a few knives. When I have hardened the blades and then not tempered them by warming them in a 400* oven, they are brittle.
 
When you heat hardened steel, aren't you just taking the temper out of it and just softening it (annealing)? I'm not a metallurgist and don't have the welding experience you do, but have made a few knives. When I have hardened the blades and then not tempered them by warming them in a 400* oven, they are brittle.
My only issue in welding something like a leaf spring would be that the spring is constantly taking different shape , maybe even to go as far as saying shortening and lengthening with weather and stress , so how do you make a weld that can change shape ? That's why they say stay away from the frame with a weld aswell . If you put heat you are changing the chemical makeup of the steel , but what the hell do I know . I wouldn't try to weld a spring I just feel like it would be a lot of wasted time , but that's not saying it can't be done it obviously can and was .
 
Grapple bucket hoses are always getting tore up. I put swivel on at the connections and sip tied them a certain way.....kinda in a loose coil. Now they say out da way. The weld on my spring held for a while, but we have the worst roads in the world. We have a bunch of that "shovel ready" jobs going on, where they rip up decent roads and make them worse. So now, every other street cake is higher then the one before, creating the perfect environment to do chipper jumps. I suppose if it where rolling on a level surface it would have held longer, but it broke close to the house, so I am counting my blessings. I had just gone over a bridge and that would have sucked.......Hello DOT!
 
Went with a guy to check out a tree he wants me to climb. It a crispy dead Oak. We drilled it and its full of brown rot, it already shedded several big branches. Its half over a tile roof. I could put a probe two inches into the roots, their pulpy, barks falling off of the top of the tree.
Its 75 to 80 feet tall with a spread bigger then that. It looks like they raised the grade on it a foot or more on the trunk at one time, and put in water loving landscape plants all around it. I told him I'll do it, but only hanging from a crane. I figure I'll hang a block on the crane and lower each piece . It could easily crumble, especially the top portion. I don't want to unbalance it to much either. I figure a day and a half, slow going on the first 25 feet, after that pretty routine
006.JPG It might look different once I get up there, but it had a funny sway to it as the wind blow. Why do people wait so long to handle these things. It would of been a piece of cake a year ago




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Why do people wait so long to handle these things.


That crosses my mind frequently. That tree is a classic example of why wait until it is literally falling on the damn house. I think it's often the fact they just hate to spend the money so bad they wait until their ins. co. is going to cancel them or they have been canceled and the mortgage co. says get ins. back on the house or else.
 
Why the block on the crane? I can't envision a scenario where that would offer any advantage.
 
Why the block on the crane? I can't envision a scenario where that would offer any advantage.
The only area we have to swing the crane is over the roof of the pool room. Those branches in the top of the tree I'm worried will fall apart they look so rotting. Taking small pieces I can lower them straight down to the pool area, and still be tied into the crane while doing it. Its a knuckle boom crane so no winch. Won't have to do the whole tree like that of course but most the top. The trees bigger then it looks in the photo, and there are wires to prevent us from swing the boom the other way, and its on a small access road, so we'll be right up on the tree. Also if we bump a part of the tree with the branch were removing it'll maybe break and shatter both pieces down on the roof. I plan on taking small short pieces at first. It would take for ever to swing the boom each time for those little cuts, but they can lower them from the ground pretty quick and get the rope back up to me fast.
Once I'm down to the trunk we can start taking bigger pieces and swinging them over the house, and I can stay in the tree. Lots can change when I'm up there to depending on the conditions. Who knows it might be stronger then it looks through binoculars.
 
I see your logic, I guess. Hard to grasp from the pics but I think I understand what you are saying. In my experience, a properly rigged piece will very rarely shed any dead wood, especially once the load is settled. It seems that adding the rope and dynamic rigging you are only increasing the chance of shaking the load and creating more problems than you need to. Not to mention doubling the weight of each piece on the boom. Stay tied to the boom until the piece settles and rap to the ground. Assuming your op is good then gently move the piece over the house and lower to the street.
 
I am working on not being a bully,, I think it is working because I have only been lurking,,gonna give Treevet a pass on me,,seems like I need to re-think before I piss a newbie off ,I use a lot of comma's and work too many days a week, I am a short fuse,, I had 5 beers,,so there,
Jeff :p

It sounds like you need some anti-depressants. Hang in there, man!

Maybe you just need to write somebody up at work; Go count the lynch pins, that ought to cheer you up. :cool:
 
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