whadja do today?

[treevet]

Looks like it could have been a nightmare I think the guy in blue in the bottom has a big splinter in his hand. Nice swimming pool. Is that the celebrity client?

 

[mckeetree]

Average company around here charges $1200-$1500 a day for a 30 ton.

Around here you can triple that. But then again, nothing surprises me I see on on here.

 

[Jed1124]

Around here you can triple that. But then again, nothing surprises me I see on on here.

Damn, for a 30 ton?
Might be time to buy one and move to Texas, at least for the winter months

 

[treevet]

If a storm hits or you have an emergency job...both of which pays top dollah...you won't be a playa in those jobs. All the cranes will be out already and around here..all cranes are out now anyway. You miss out on so much without a crane. But there just are SO many jobs you simply cannot do without a crane day to day and a zillion more that are so much easier with one. If you don't have one it is likely why many quit this profession. You miss out on the easy high paying stuff and grind out with the ropes and GRCS if you can even do them at all :-(.

 

[Jed1124]

If a storm hits or you have an emergency job...both of which pays top dollah...you won't be a playa in those jobs. All the cranes will be out already and around here..all cranes are out now anyway. You miss out on so much without a crane. But there just are SO many jobs you simply cannot do without a crane day to day and a zillion more that are so much easier with one. If you don't have one it is likely why many quit this profession. You miss out on the easy high paying stuff and grind out with the ropes and GRCS if you can even do them at all :-(.

Good points.
I think we are probably in a rare market with availability with regard to subbing a crane.
I can think of 6 companies/owner operators off the top of my head I can call tomorrow and book them when needed. Of course most are booked out but if they like you and don’t mind working with your crew they will help you in a pinch.
It just doesn’t pay to buy one around here unless your buried in crane work.
Storm work is another animal all together, but if you have enough regular work who really wants to chase that crap anyway. Sketchy, nasty, dangerous work that rarely pays what it’s worth.

 

[mckeetree]

Damn, for a 30 ton?
Might be time to buy one and move to Texas, at least for the winter months

Could work...but claim you are from Alabama or some such and not from CT. You could say a rare disease caused your yankee accent. People around here are convinced ******* northerners is what got Buck Fiden elected. Buck is about as popular as a skunk in a whorehouse here in my county. Let's go Brandon!

 

[tree MDS]

Looks like it could have been a nightmare I think the guy in blue in the bottom has a big splinter in his hand. Nice swimming pool. Is that the celebrity client?

You’d need more than your 12 retired rental company mats to get Shorty down there LOL.

 

[tree MDS]

Storm work is a pita. Just an aggravation and a disruption of normally scheduled programming. I remember when I was just starting out I’d get excited about that kind of thing, not anymore though. I dread it when a storm threatens us.

Yes you can do some jobs with increased profit, but I find it a better plan to just charge good money across the board, rather than sit around waiting for a disaster so you can scumbag it on up lol.

 

[treevet]

You’d need more than your 12 retired rental company mats to get Shorty down there LOL.

It is a shame you have to even double row with that claptrap or yours. I'd back in there easy with the Altec. I think we have about 30 now hand picked out of their pile that just came in this year. Nothing retired about them. You didn't answer...Is that your stated "celebrity" new customer? lol

 

[treevet]

Storm work is a pita. Just an aggravation and a disruption of normally scheduled programming. I remember when I was just starting out I’d get excited about that kind of thing, not anymore though. I dread it when a storm threatens us.

Yes you can do some jobs with increased profit, but I find it a better plan to just charge good money across the board, rather than sit around waiting for a disaster so you can scumbag it on up lol.

Let's tell truth...nobody calls you for storm work (read giant profit $) because you don't have a fkn crane dichwad. How tf do you get a tree off a house without one? "I dread it when a storm threatens us" Hep me I'm skeeeered.

 

[treevet]

There is day to day money but then there is rockstar money. EAB treatments, fertilizing and spraying, large planting jobs (we are into a $40k one now) and then there is storm damage and emergency and insurance work. It is part of a normal year for an evolved tree service. If you can't handle the job...somebody will steal your prized clients...and laugh at you while doing it. Pastacraner and probably a half dozen tree companies steal your best clients ALL the time I bet. You are just chosen likely because you are the lowballer...right Paulie?

 

[ShermanC]

How many crane jobs a month do you think justifies purchasing a crane?
Average company around here charges $1200-$1500 a day for a 30 ton. It comes with an experienced operator for the most part, and the crane leaves at the end of day, without the concern for maintenance, insurance, repairs, registration, DOT inspections etc by the tree service subbing it out.
I would think it would only make financial sense when your doing a crane job at a minimum of once or twice a week. Even then, someone has to run it, which generally means another employee, so you need to hire an operator or another climber, which will cost more than the crane plus everything else included, and it’s just about impossible to find good employees in today’s market.

Brother, you are a clear thinker and see it from the cost benefit side of the balance sheet. We need more people like you in our trade.

 

[dbl612]

Let's see one picture let alone video of you doing tree work lately...just one. Why don't you shuffle off and find a crane forum? You like the smell of tree guys or something?

I’ll ask one of my operators to take one. We have two cranes doing trees today.

 

[dbl612]

There is day to day money but then there is rockstar money. EAB treatments, fertilizing and spraying, large planting jobs (we are into a $40k one now) and then there is storm damage and emergency and insurance work. It is part of a normal year for an evolved tree service. If you can't handle the job...somebody will steal your prized clients...and laugh at you while doing it. Pastacraner and probably a half dozen tree companies steal your best clients ALL the time I bet. You are just chosen likely because you are the lowballer...right Paulie?

Dave, why would I steal any of my customers crane jobs? What possible gain is that?

 

[dbl612]

Brother, you are a clear thinker and see it from the cost benefit side of the balance sheet. We need more people like you in our trade.

Dave has a handy entry level crane that works well for him. The rental world requires much more production. Unless you are a daily user it’s cheaper overall to rent. A total write off expense.

 

[dbl612]

There is day to day money but then there is rockstar money. EAB treatments, fertilizing and spraying, large planting jobs (we are into a $40k one now) and then there is storm damage and emergency and insurance work. It is part of a normal year for an evolved tree service. If you can't handle the job...somebody will steal your prized clients...and laugh at you while doing it. Pastacraner and probably a half dozen tree companies steal your best clients ALL the time I bet. You are just chosen likely because you are the lowballer...right Paulie?

Dave, we work for probably 20. Tree companies, some big some small. When they do scheduled work or storm emergencies, none of them have ever said they were rockstars, just companies providing a service. This rockstar classification must be something in the dave Shaw mindset.

 

[dbl612]

Dave, we work for probably 20. Tree companies, some big some small. When they do scheduled work or storm emergencies, none of them have ever said they were rockstars, just companies providing a service. This rockstar classification must be something in the dave Shaw mindset.

Of all the people on this forum, you are the only one claiming greatness. Everyone else just goes about their daily work without fanfare.

 

[treevet]

Dave, we work for probably 20. Tree companies, some big some small. When they do scheduled work or storm emergencies, none of them have ever said they were rockstars, just companies providing a service. This rockstar classification must be something in the dave Shaw mindset.

That is what I am saying son...as the ash diminish in quantity and he bids on jobs and other companies use you and GET THOSE JOBS...around here we call that stealing a job from him. You wouldn't get that as you aren't a tree guy...even tho you like the way they smell.

The other blather from your post is taken out of context. The reference to rock stars was the drastically higher per job payment in some scenarios. Pay attention Dummy.

 

[treevet]

Dave has a handy entry level crane that works well for him. The rental world requires much more production. Unless you are a daily user it’s cheaper overall to rent. A total write off expense.

Back in the early 80's here the absolute biggest crane you could rent (not sub) was a 17 tonner. Few and almost no crane companies did tree work. I got many of them into it when I moved here from NJ and had done it there in early 70's.

It is hardly an "entry level" crane. It is my 4th crane having prior a 12 ton, a 15 ton and a 17 ton. This REAR MOUNT 105' reach without the 45' jib on, 25 ton capacity crane with no man cab which I didn't want is ideal for tree work and no need to get in and out of the cab. Way less worries about crushed driveways. Not much I can't do with it beside boom over houses where I sub as my vids have shown. The large crane company owner (one of 4 I use) who I sub his 90 ton crane has repeatedly asked me to sell it to him whenever I want.

I could teach even a stooge like Classlessadei to operate it using the Sena headsets. Huge money maker. You timid types too skeered to get or operate a crane should get a lawn service going.

Crane purchase and any repairs/ maintenance is "a total write off expense".

 

[treevet]

Of all the people on this forum, you are the only one claiming greatness. Everyone else just goes about their daily work without fanfare.

Ever consider the possibility that after 52 successful years in the business and still going full bore ...I MAY HAVE "GREATNESS"? Think it over Lasagna. If you handle ANY job and NEVER make a mistake...well...you add it up dichface. Can't ever remember a day I wasn't striving for it. You too old and brokedown to even try anymore.