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How many do you get on average percentage or out of ten whichever is easy for you to figure out.

We are almost dead on 30%.

Is this about normal or are we low.


Thanks in advance for any replies.
 
Being brand new to running my own show this year I found that 20 to 30 percent is about what I get. I'm sure that number will increase over the years as I get more referrals ( very rarely have I lost one of them ) and I improve my sales abilities. I generally know w/in the first 2 minutes whether I'm getting the job or not. It's all about customer rapport. If you hit it off with the HO, you get the job regardless of price. Sometimes the rapport isn't there but I ended up being lower cost than the other guy and got the job anyway. How long have you been in business? If you're just starting out 30 percent is a good amount.
 
Within the service sector -whether it be tree care, landscaping, concrete construction, home remodeling, ect, etc - it is generally accepted by those who have done research on the subject of bidding, that 20-30% is a reasonable goal to aim for. That is, of course, if the customer has no particular preference towards the individual contractor and is simply looking for the lowest bid to complete the job according to a particular set of specifications given. In other words, these numbers only apply to bids you give to first-time customers who know little or nothing about you or your business and the same about your competition.

With that in mind, if you're getting less than 20-30% of your bids, it probably means you're not being competetive within your market (bidding too high) and you need to look at ways to reduce your overhead, material costs, etc so that you can get the job finished at a lower cost to the customer while still preserving your target net profit on the job.

If you're getting more than 20-30% of your bids (again, keeping in mind that we're talking about situations where the client has no preference in whom he hires), then it likely means you are bidding too low within your market and that you should consider raising your prices. This, of course, only applies if you are turning away business because you are backlogged with work. It does not necessarily apply if you are getting most of your bids but still don't have enough work to keep you busy.

When dealing with customers who know something about you and your company's reputation, I personally aim to get a much higher percentage of those bids - between 50-75%. That's when your abilities as a salesman to push expereience and professionalism vs lowest price comes into play.

These are two general scenarios for two different kinds of clients. Also, one has to bear in mind that the economy is a huge driving force and will always throw a wrench in the calculations.

Hope this helps.
 
So it is sounding like for tree work we might be pretty much on the mark but could use a little more improvement to get up to 40-50%.

On lawn maintenance we get a lot higher percentage but we are already known for that and people see us taking care of properties in their neighborhood already and can see the difference between our work and other peoples.
More on the 70-80% for lawn maintenance.

Thanks for all the replies so far
 
My business, CNC machining and plastic injection molding, the percentages are the same. Quoting cold, new customers without referral 20-30%. Existing customers 50-70%, depending how entrenched we are. Even then, it is still usually competitive, as most customers have a couple of vendors that do what we do. Those percentages seem to be standard in most industries.
 
I usually get about 50-75%. But I get most of my business from referalls. Same here for people who arn't referalls. About 20-30%. So I guess I'm about on target. I always say that with a new customer, that if I give them a price and get an immediate yes! ... then my price was too low. Oh well win some loose some..... Mike

P.S. good thread!
 
Around 80 - 90%.

The wife thought I was pricing them too low. I tried higher prices and did not get the work.

Have to agree with Arbor Pro about the economy, well see what next season's brings.
 
Repeat clients I'm at about 95% referrals roughly 60% as for new clients we are doing about 35% I had a guy that owes his own concrete company and he said that if you getting over 20% then you are bidding work too cheap. If I ever get into the concrete show then I'll let you know what I find out. lol
 
20% and 30% based on how many bids sent out? 20% of 100 bids or 20% of 1000 bids?

I have only been beat on prices twice and one of them was because I bid too low. :confused: Gofigure.:dizzy:

But then again, I don't do too many jobs in that its part time and mostly weekends.
 
If I was interested in having a contractor do any sort of work, I would call three to five and have them bid on the job. I would then hire 20-33% of them. I figure that most people do it about the same way.
 
20% and 30% based on how many bids sent out? 20% of 100 bids or 20% of 1000 bids?

I have only been beat on prices twice and one of them was because I bid too low. :confused: Gofigure.:dizzy:

But then again, I don't do too many jobs in that its part time and mostly weekends.

We did a job for 6k this past spring that another guy bid $2,700.00 on:dizzy: When the H.O. asked how he intended on doing the job he said the guy was really unsure of himself and told them he would be there a better part of the week. I explained in detail how the job would take place and we would be in and out in 2 days with the right equipment, and also with minimal impact on his lawn and landscaping. We got the job and have also recieved multiple referalls from doing as we promised in a professional manner at a reasonable rate. Not usually the case when people are shopping though. I would say we get about 80% of the bigger technical removals we bid due to the fact we have the equipment and knowledge to get in and out quick and safely, when the other's do not or choose not to do them. Now on the other end of the spectrum the smaller removals that joe shmow with a pick-up and chainsaw can do we get about 30% of those bids. Referrals are king though, I would say we get atleast 80% of our referalls. And lastly prunning and stump grinding come in around 50% I would say. I really feel presentation is a huge part of getting a bid second only to price of course for new clients. I am no salesman but I show up on time in a company shirt and in a nice vehicle, Even our older trucks are kept clean, rust free, and lettered. I present a professional attitude and take as much time as needed to make the client comfortable with me and our services. I always bid the job for what we need to make VS what I think the competition is bidding. Sometimes we will get the other company was way cheaper speach, and I simply respond If you have a bid from a reputable company with the proper insurance for that price I would go with them, Heres my estimate, give us a call if the other company does not work out for you. Bashing the competition never works even if they have a bad track record I just let it go. Sorry if this is all off topic but I feel your ability to make the potential client comfortable with you and also being competively priced is a huge part of your Bid acceptance percentage as a whole.
 
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If I was interested in having a contractor do any sort of work, I would call three to five and have them bid on the job. I would then hire 20-33% of them. I figure that most people do it about the same way.

I don't and either do alot of other's. EXAMPLE- I just had new gutters put on the house, I did not know of anyone personally so I looked in the yellow pages, found a local number and called. The 2 guys that came out were down to earth and gave me what I felt was a reasonable price on the job. I signed the proposal with out getting any other bids, and everything worked out perfect. I think calling 4-5 companys is just #####ing alot of busy people around, and usually you just end up with the cheapest company and piss poor final results. Now if I did not feel comfortable with the first guys I called I would have called someone else and then some else again if need be but just calling 3,4,5 or more people at once is not fair to the contractors in general. JMHO though...
 
:agree2:

Sometimes I go to a job and the homeowner tells me they "called everyone in the phonebook". I find that rude and a total waste of peoples time. Makes business men have to charge more too, to cover the expense of the extra fruitless estimates.... Mike
 

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