What knot do you use
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Ax-man
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No rope snap here either, Buntline, Anchor , Double Fisherman's knot will get the job done. There are a few others too that will work. The bowline is on it's way out for an attachment to rope snap type knot.
Larry
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begleytree
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Treeco said:
Steebow said:
Wow, only registered for a week, with 5 whole post, and yet you already know treeco's name is Dan?
Why dontcha make it easy or something?
-Ralph
Stumper
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Buntline on a 'biner-but it works fine on the big ol', heavy, clunky, snap I used to use too....
begleytree
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Sounds simple enough, but, the IP addy shows he's an old friend.
-Ralph
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Ax-man
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He's in good hands with Dan. We don't happen to have an Allstate logo around here do we??
Larry
Larry
Ya know the good hands thing used to be heard a lot more, until a comedian pointed out where they were cupping there hands together in the ad!
newbies
I want to point out to any of the newbies out there they should practice tying knots and dressing the knots to be sure the knots are secure. The Anchor Hitch in perticular needs to be tied properly and backed up with a half hitch or better yet a figure 8 knot. Otherwise you'll find yourself doing the "does gravity work" test followed by the "bone density fracture" test if you are working from any hieght. Try your knots out close to the ground until you are familar with tying them, work low and slow until you get it right. Gravity always works. Bone density may vary in your area. Both tests are best avoided and can be avoided by practicing tying any of the knots you intend to use. Even after you have tying the knots down pat, you need to watch them while using them to make sure they are properly dressed and secure. Did I mention GRAVITY ALWAYS WORKS?TreeCo said:Hey Ken I heard a comedian say their competition was only using one hand.
ok ok I been coming here for a while even had an other name (ofthefather) but could not remember pass. Im doin the reading and learning thanks to all who take the time to teach.
I used to climb for a company called Trees Inc we did line clearing residental,some rural and new construction right away, I learned to climb there and so still desiring to climb Im learning new stuff from this site.
So nobody uses the ol' rope snap anymore? Can you give visual on what most pepole use now days
I used to climb for a company called Trees Inc we did line clearing residental,some rural and new construction right away, I learned to climb there and so still desiring to climb Im learning new stuff from this site.
So nobody uses the ol' rope snap anymore? Can you give visual on what most pepole use now days
RedlineIt
ArboristSite Guru
Dunno about others saying you're already "aquainted" here. Don't much care unless you personally screw me around. But it raises a red flag nonetheless.
Before split-tails came in, I trusted only the closed loop. I was taught clove hitch tie in, (two runs of ropes around my butt sling centre D's were better than one) figure eight on bridge to tautline hitch, and another figure eight to prevent rollout.
That's alot of knots to retie when you need to recrotch or advance.
Once I got my old training revised by a younger man who displayed total confidence and ability with split-tails, I went to a bowline tie-in and a Blake's hitch on Williams snagless ball-locking 'biners. It was like a new world when it came to repositioning, no going back.
The bowline tie-in was shown to be able to reverse somehow and fail, I still do not understand the nuances of how this could happen, I personally would trust any bowline I would tie, but it made me seek an alternative. Additionally, on a bowline you have loop area that can snag on uninteresting, annoying fluff.
So now I'm on a Beckett's bend with either a Blake's or a VT.
Interestingly, I know the Beckett's self-cinches, I've never seen an inch of roll-out, but I still back it up with a figure eight.
Maybe I'm an old dog with some new tricks, but I won't leave my favorite fire hydrant.
RedlineIt
Before split-tails came in, I trusted only the closed loop. I was taught clove hitch tie in, (two runs of ropes around my butt sling centre D's were better than one) figure eight on bridge to tautline hitch, and another figure eight to prevent rollout.
That's alot of knots to retie when you need to recrotch or advance.
Once I got my old training revised by a younger man who displayed total confidence and ability with split-tails, I went to a bowline tie-in and a Blake's hitch on Williams snagless ball-locking 'biners. It was like a new world when it came to repositioning, no going back.
The bowline tie-in was shown to be able to reverse somehow and fail, I still do not understand the nuances of how this could happen, I personally would trust any bowline I would tie, but it made me seek an alternative. Additionally, on a bowline you have loop area that can snag on uninteresting, annoying fluff.
So now I'm on a Beckett's bend with either a Blake's or a VT.
Interestingly, I know the Beckett's self-cinches, I've never seen an inch of roll-out, but I still back it up with a figure eight.
Maybe I'm an old dog with some new tricks, but I won't leave my favorite fire hydrant.
RedlineIt
okietreedude1
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I too dont use a snap anymore... ive gone to a captive eye biner (isc keylock).
The knot is still the bowline. another to use though would be the double fishermans. it is a slip-type knot that would sinch around your snap or biner unlike the bowline.
The knot is still the bowline. another to use though would be the double fishermans. it is a slip-type knot that would sinch around your snap or biner unlike the bowline.
Dadatwins
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I use a snap lock on my laynard, but it is spliced in three strand. I find the snap lock easier to snap on the d-rings than a ******. Used a snap tied with a bowline on my climbing line until I ordered a arbormaster spliced eye, now I use a ****** with a cinch knot, find it very easy to use. Regardless what method you decide to use, it is still recommended that you learn and practice all the attachment knots in case you ever need them. Be careful
KentuckySawyer
ArboristSite Operative
Kong steel D carabiner with the buntline hitch.
Why use the double fisherman's knot? Isn't it a beatch to untie after loaded?
Why use the double fisherman's knot? Isn't it a beatch to untie after loaded?
Ax-man
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Dada , you beat me to it about using a splice instead of a knot, splices are really nice if you use a false crotch and retrieve it from the ground, just put a " key " unto the splice to get the false crotch out of the tree.
Before switching to splices the double fishermans was my prefered knot, like Okie said, security plus the cinching, and if your into looks for a knot, it is an attractive looking knot.
Larry
Before switching to splices the double fishermans was my prefered knot, like Okie said, security plus the cinching, and if your into looks for a knot, it is an attractive looking knot.
Larry
sharpstikman
ArboristSite Lurker
steebow go to SHERRELL web order (the tree climbers companion) this will help much, also remember to try these nots using different kinds of rope to see how they react with each other.
Davidsinatree
ArboristSite Operative
I use a rope snap tied onto rope with a figure eight. Its a little bulky, but a good knot. It does not get in the way at all.
I use the rope snap on my main line and a biner on my split tail.
I use the rope snap on my main line and a biner on my split tail.
