@ MDS. Im more of a equipment operator in a specailzed field than any thing else. I love the toys we use in our line of work, especialy stumpers. But I was brainwashed at an early age. In retrospect , I think my dad was nuts. He let me stand as close as 15 or so feet away from that 665a in the pic, as soon as I could walk, and watch it go to town. If you saw that thing tear up a few thousand stumps that young, youd be a lil obsessed with grinding to. As far as the tracked SC60 goes...... What a headache. When those things work and run right, they are the proverbial BEES KNEES. But, I have much experience with them. They eat like a mother, but,,, the brain box is a disaster, the traxs stick and wont go in and out, especaily when you need to get thru a gate, the controls suck(whats up with soeliniod over hydraulic? whats wrong with a live valve bank?) Vermeer is a bad move. They were the grinder king, BACK IN THE DAY, but , well, thats enuff ranting, lets leave it at this, I havent given up on a 1983 665a for a reason. Its embarasing to drive down the road with it, cuz its an ugly dinosaur, but its an overgrown lawn mower. Anyone can fix it, it never or hardly breaks, and the dam thing has made me a helluva lot of $, and it aint dead yet. Can I get a AMEN!??! Oh yeah, paid $3K for that thing, in 03'. I think its worth it. What I really want is the Top Notch 38 Special for the mini. One truck, 3 machines.... Save a ton on time, drivers and fuel. I'll be the small to medium removal king when that setup is built.