What the....?

[wiley_p]

Does anyone go this way?

 

[blue]

wot the hell is that?

 

[MasterBlaster]

I think they use that to catch sharks!

 

[wiley_p]

That is my freind on long branch removals, awkward positioning/stances faster than using a flipline in alot of situations. Use to have it on a daisy chain, then went to a Metolius adjustable "daisy" now the ropeman and Petzls new escape cord. I feel it is perfect now. The hook is a Black Diamond Spectre.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

Trailhead

When I saw the title, I thought that I might have crossed paths with another Trailhead, a fan of the Mark Trail comic strip:

http://www.whatth.com/marktrailboard/index1.html

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/fun/mark.asp

Tom

 

[wiley_p]

Tom, never seen that before, whats up with the knockout powder?

 

[OutOnaLimb]

Dude, thats a ice climbing axe. Who the hell is using stuff like that to climb trees????????? Do they want to start putting bolted sport routes in Maples and oaks? Please tell me that isnt something that New Tribe thought up to get the hippie tree huggers up in our canopy. The stupidity never ceases to amaze me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:Monkey:

 

[Tom Dunlap]

You can go back to the start of the MT story. It's only about a week or so old, slow as ever.

No, that isn't an ice climbing axe. It's used in rock climbing as an anchor. Do some research. Go read up on smashies and bashies, rurps and other kit used by rock climbers. Pretty cool stuff!

I know some arbos who use hooks and grapples as secondary anchors. With some caution and understanding about the limitations, they have a place in treework.

I doubt that you'd use that as a primary support, would you?

Since when is tree climbing limited to people who do it for a living? That's a bit exclusive isn't it?

Tom

 

[NickfromWI]

Tree climbing is much like Aide climbing...relying on the tree and the equipment. I'm suprised it took this long for some of the Aide climbing equipment to show up on this site.

You ever seen the tiny hooks...black diamond makes one called the Pecker!!! It's freaky to hook that thing on a tiny ledge and just step up on it....it feels like nothing is holding you!

Just be careful how you use the things!

love
nick

 

[TimberMcPherson]

Aide climbing is just freaky, I had an "airhook" which I used to carry when solo climbing to take rests on. I hadnt seen a hook like that before but it did look like somethign BD would make. Not a bad idea aside from having to climb to retrieve it.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

The hook could be rigged with a retrieval string like a fifi hook.

Tom

 

[wiley_p]

Outonalimb, the limited thinking of some people ceases to amaze me, maybe if you worked in large timber you would be a little more open to new techniques, I remember fighting fire in Colorado, not the sharpest bunch. Its not an ice climbing axe as you call it its a peice of pro for mixed climbing. You may want to think about who you call "tree hugging hippes".

 

[Lumberjack]

Kenn wanted me to post these pics, that is the extent of my work:angel:.

 

[OutOnaLimb]

Hey thanks Carl, As you can see the little contraption looks suspiciously like the head of an Ice axe. I taught military mountianeerin for the mountain phase of the US Army Ranger school. I am pretty up on all the gear out there and it flat out insults me Wiley that you would slap me in the face like that. To the best of my knowledge most of the fire fighting crews here in Colorado are convicts from the state pen in Canon City. When did the government start sending out of state convict crews to fight Colorados fires?

Kenn

 

[wiley_p]

I only use it on removals, and outonalimb the Spectre has been around for about 8 years now, so maybe you missed one of the common tools used in steep ice/rock environments, and for your info their are several hundred wildland firefighters in your state who are employed by the BLM, USFS, NPS, and your State Forestry division, and none of these are convicts, nor are the Hotshot crews and Smokejumpers which are Type1 resources as are the Rangers that you train. So maybe you arent as well informed as you should be. If youy want to throw insults in my genral direction I will happily return them to you.

 

[rborist1]

:Eye:

 

[rbtree]

You asked for it, in on a limb guy...your post was the inane one......


I've worked with wiley and watched him use the tool, it is slick....reckon I need one meself....

I never did much aid climbing.much less A5, which might entail two or more in a row skyhook moves.... or RURP placements.

 

[Tom Dunlap]

The USFS used to hire US Army to help fight fires. They found that it's cheaper to have pro fire fighters from Australia on the payroll than ametuer Army soldiers. Not a slam on the Army. This info comes from a friend of mine who works for NIFC in Boise, the "Pentagon-for-firefighting" in the US.

Tom

 

[rumination]

Wiley,

I'm still a little unclear on how that device grabs. Could you post some pics of it in use?

thanks

 

[Gord]

i can see how that could come in handy in some tricky spots...where do you have it anchored to your saddle wiley?

i know that often i clip my lanyard back to the same side D...sometimes the balance works better.