Why don`t you guys like Champion plugs?

[G-MAN]

i run all bosch, of the thousands of new units i've sold the only brand new plugs that wouldn't fire were champion. havent seen any problems with ngk

 

[donnyman]

I prefer the champs,have tryed others but always came back to the champions.Guess thats why they named them champions.There winners.

 

[clearance]

My old boss used to say "n.g.k.=n.f.g." With that he would chuck the n.g.k. plug out of someones saw into the bush and replace it with a Bosch plug. I have no real knowledge either way but I try to use Bosch.

 

[GASoline71]

Been ridin' dirt bikes forever, and have always used NGK's. Never had a problem. So it just seemed fitting to use them in all high RPM small 2-stroke engines. No probs in any bikes or saws. Have a Champion CJ8 in my generator, and have not had any probs with it.

On a side note my 028 WB has the original Bosch plug in it, and it runs like a top. Probably should change it, but it still pulls through the wood.

Gary

 

[Simonizer]

NGK used to be the best when I was roadracing motorcycles, (although I had a sponsorship from Champion). Now Bosch are the benchmark in spark plugs. Almost every saw we will talk about on this forum will take a WSR6F Bosch plug. I recommend them with very high regard. Cheers.

 

[Lewis Brander]

Plugs:

Well, interesting topic. Years back, when running chainsaws with regular 30w non detergent motor oil the plugs would foul up pretty fast. Guys would experiment with ignition timing and different plug heat ranges, usually going to hotter plugs, etc. I find with the newer synthetic oils ( mixed from 16/1 to 50/1) there's not as much of a plug fouling issue, as in the past. I go to Advance auto and ask for champion plugs in the heat range I'm looking for and they don't seem to carry them and subsittute Autolite. Can't say that I've had one foul as yet. I can't see spending the big bucks when you don't need to, especally with todays oils used in 2 stroke engines. JMO. Take care. Lewis Brander.

 

[klickitatsacket]

Lewis touched on something that I have found. NGK and Bosch have a wider variety of plugs in differant heat ranges that you can not find in Champion (for 2 stroke applications). As a builder I will change the heat of a plug based on the compression levels of a saw. These brands have fewer gaps in heat ranges allowing you to use the right plug for your application. If your compression is extremely high and you have a super hot plug you can blow holes in your pistons. (been there) Hot plugs are nice though when you have a saw that is running on heavy oil mix. I use both NGK and Bosch and have never had a problem that I did not create. Champion seems to be a fine plug but has too many gaps in the heat ranges so I stick with the plugs that I can use consistantly.

 

[Pacific]

I refuse to use Crapion spark plugs I had so many problems in my trucks with them I changed to NGKs 12 years ago never looked back. I don't own gasser trucks anymore but all my saws have NGK or Bosch plugs. Buying Champions is like buying Fram filters you run the risk of engine damage

 

[Marco]

Champion makes a good "plug", so did this saw run after the champion was replaced? About the only thing I have good luck with Champions in is in a Jeep Cherokee and these plugs where purchased from a jeep dealer with the Chrysler name on the box this may make a differance. I like to run Bosch in my 2 stoke stuff, NGK's for old Johnsreds that you have to remove the terminal to put the plug wire terminal on. AC Delco in anything GM. Autolites in my tractors, except a 1936 JD A he gets Champion W18's. So I guess it comes down to previous experiance(luck) and what is available for your application. I myself will chuck a new champion on a saw that comes in that won't run, I'll chuck a Bosch, NGK or what ever else is there, too.

 

[spacemule]

Where's Fish? He'd love this thread.

 

[ray benson]

I like champion plugs. Please send me all your champion plugs.

 

[Douglas]

1) Has anyone knowledge of using the newer Champion EZ start 5843, 'The one tug plug'? This is a Champion replacement for the Champion CJ8.

2) I noted in Walmart another still more expensive plug with a US name but made in China which clamined to be a super duper plug but avoided the hype.

 

[16gauge]

Champion EZ Start Problem

I always tried to stick with the original plug that comes with the equipment. My big Echos (CS 5000 and CS 670) came with Champion CJ6 plugs and have run great with them. I do change the plugs as part of annual maintenance whether they need it or not. As I recall, all the Stihls I have owned came with Bosch so that's what they were replaced with.

This just seemed sensible to me. If the factory sends it out with a certain component, replace it with original equipment. This spring I broke out of the box and bought two of the Champion EZ Start plugs ...I'll have to check in the shop for the exact number for the plugs but these were right out of the book for an echo 3450 and another one of my saws (can't remember which but the gap called out was different). The EZ Start was longer with thicker porcelain that the original plugs. The echo started and ran as good as ever but I did not want to stretch out the boot so went back to the stock NGK. In the other saw...could have been my Jonsy 625...no maybe my son's saw,,,the plug was just long enough to interfere with the filter/clylinder cover. Kind of like having a super duper whiz bang oil filter that doesn't fit your pickup. I have a small collection of those too.