Charlie Chan and the case of the fake Husky

[spike60]

Greetings honorable members. Customa come to shop with saw probrem last week. Ordered saw from old country and when he open up box he get velly big suplize. Saw all a broken into many pieces from velly long journey. Company say no refund once he sign for box. Honorable customa velly angly. Humble detective also must give him more bad a news. He think he get real Husky at good plice, but he only get velly cheap Chinese copy. All materials are inferior quarity. Even air filter velly cheap. Number one son say remind him of wife's sanitelly napkin.

Many places where should say "made in Sweden" onry say "made in china" or "made in taiwan". Chinese factory velly velly crever. They not only dupricate saw, they also dupricate box and owners manual. But they not crever enough to fool Charlie Chan, your humble chainsaw detective.

Honorable Arborsite sponsor Spike60 will now post some photos and info so that hopefury other honorable members will not be fooled into buying from crooked Chinese saw company. Confucious say: better to learn from others mistakes than to make your own.

 

[spike60]

This is how it showed up. Busted tank and chain brake handle. Cheap and brittle plastic. The company blew him off and said that once he signed for it, it was tough luck. As if everyone goes to thye post office and checks the package before signing for it.

 

[spike60]

Things to notice here. Most obvious is that they have tried to copy the early 365/2065 cylinder and intake. The cylinder even says "48Z mahle" on it, but it certainly doesn't look or feel like Mahle metal. I could write Mahle on my coffee cup too, but that won't make it a Mahle. Carb is not a Walbro, just a few random letters on top. Throttle cable has some kind of metal covering. Those shiny fuel and pulse lines are not very pliable, wonder how they'll hold up to ethanol.

 

[Arrowhead]

lol sank you for the post.

 

[spike60]

They even fake the box along with the owners manual. Underneath the "husky" decal is the smaller one that has a bunch of Chinese writing on it. I'll bet that the saws all have the same serial number.

 

[weimedog]

We need to get it running and see how it goes....wonder how it would hold up to our "Poulan" throws! At least the Poulans's didn't break apart even after repeated throws! Did you say where or what the website was that sells these things?

You have to wonder how many of those parts show up through our discount aftermarket parts channels..

 

[spike60]

Here's a real giveaway. Take off the bar plate and where it should say "made in Sweden" it saws "made in taiwan" Most of the plastic pieces are stamped "made in china"

 

[spike60]

And let's not forget that sanitelly napkin air filter. Poor material and a poor fit. The starter pulley is also made of incorrect material. Instead of the usual plastic, it's some cheap porous metal.

 

[thomas72]

Should be a way to crack down on those companies shipping those infringing products. Chinese mentality,"Lets let them spend thousands to millions of dollars developing products and we will just copy."

 

[wigglesworth]

Looks legit to me....:dunno:

I thought all husky's were made in Tiawan? :msp_flapper:

 

[spike60]

OK so how's this all work. First of all, I'm going to name the company so you guys can avoid getting burned. The website/company is ali express. I figure since the customer can't touch them, then those crooks can't touch us. There are several levels of deceit here. First it's just a poorly built product. Despite so-called guarantee's, they told the customer to get lost on the breakage issue. Call your lawyer? Go ahead, who you going to serve papers to?

If you look around the website, they really go out of their way to make you believe that you are buying a genuine Husky or Stihl product. All kinds of pictures of stuff with Husky and Stihl graphics on them. They are LYING to you. It's fraud. It's junk.

Normally I'd be of the opinion that anyone that buys this crap deserves the screwing they get, and my first inclination would be to laugh at the guy who bought this thing. But there's a much bigger issue playing out here. The Chicoms are crooks. Dishonest, unethical crooks that have no rules to play by. As a nation we are blind to how much it's really costing us when we think we're saving money buy buying crap from China. My motivation here is not so much to help this customer get his money back as to help bang those crooks with a charge back from M/C Visa. Score one for the home team.

So, with that in mind, as a legitimate Husky dealer, I wrote a nice letter that he submitted to his credit card company to substantiate the charge of fraud, and get his money back. I just hope that the credit card company can charge back the seller and not eat the $300 themselves.

He says he's going to give me the saw, (and buy a real one). So, this will be an interesting GTG item for guys to look over.

 

[REJ2]

Makes me want to drive into town and slap the sheet out of the first Chinaman I find. I know not the right thing to do. That box takes the cake, could fool a person no doubt. Gotta run, gotta go check my sheet.

 

[Meadow Beaver]

I hope he learned his lesson. I mean that's like not buying propane and propane accesories from a certified propane and propane accesories dealer I tell ya what.

 

[weimedog]

Makes me want to drive into town and slap the sheet out of the first Chinaman I find. I know not the right thing to do.

No...don't go there. You can't blame them for taking advantage of the environment we have set up for them. You might want to slap the crap out of the politicians and fools who have spent the last couple of generations making this type of thing both probable and acceptable in the name of environmentalism and social justice.

 

[spike60]

Looks legit to me....:dunno:

I thought all husky's were made in Tiawan? :msp_flapper:

Oooo that stings. But I'm still laughing!

 

[spike60]

Should be a way to crack down on those companies shipping those infringing products. Chinese mentality,"Lets let them spend thousands to millions of dollars developing products and we will just copy."

There's no one they can go after. Transaction takes place online; saw gets shipped from China to the guys post office. The shipping label contains another lie. It says "chainsaw as gift; value $50". So, they're even lying to customs and the USPS, but again, they're out of reach.

If someone brought a container of these things in and retailed them, he'd get hung by Husky/Stihl, the EPA and who knows who else.

 

[Guido Salvage]

He says he's going to give me the saw, (and buy a real one). So, this will be an interesting GTG item for guys to look over.

I have an idea... (really). Remember the book from several years ago titled "The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants"? We could have our own version with this saw called the "Brotherhood of the Traveling Chi-Com Saw". The saw is shipped from one GTG to another for inspection and whatever else one would do with such an item. I claim it first for the Mid-Virginia GTG next month, go ahead and send it to GoRving and tell him where it needs to go next. We will all chip in a couple of bucks for postage to keep it moving.

 

[weimedog]

Of course they are preying on the American and other places looking to get the deal without doing the research and/or where price point is more important than ethics.. A case of you get what you pay for...but in this case I doubt that's even true. Yet another risk of online sales vs. dealers who hopefully buy thru established brand distributes.

 

[Guido Salvage]

Transaction takes place online; saw gets shipped from China to the guys post office.

Are you sure? I wonder if there is not a middleman who imports them and ships them out?

 

[spike60]

I have an idea... (really). Remember the book from several years ago titled "The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants"? We could have our own version with this saw call the "Brotherhood of the Traveling Chi-Com Saw". The saw is shipped from one GTG to another for inspection and whatever else one would do with such an item. I claim it first for the Mid-Virginia GTG next month, go ahead and send it to GoRving and tell him where it needs to go next. We will all chip in a couple of bucks for postage to keep it moving.

Well................I ain't been to Virginny in about 15 years. Thall gonna be there?


If I get it, I'm going to put a used 372 tank on there, (if it'll fit), and see if the thing will run.