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I am glad you like it, but not really surpriced - afterall it is the replacement for the 340, and not any "Poulan assambled" saw.....
OK Husky NUTS here's little big man...
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nikocker
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Thanks Nikko . . .
Before I bought this I was actually looking at getting the 340 - Tractor Supply had a couple in one or two stores in our area. But the more I looked at the new 400 series, I really wanted to give them a try. Plus the 435 was lighter.
Al
I am glad you like it, but not really surpriced - afterall it is the replacement for the 340, and not any "Poulan assambled" saw.....
Before I bought this I was actually looking at getting the 340 - Tractor Supply had a couple in one or two stores in our area. But the more I looked at the new 400 series, I really wanted to give them a try. Plus the 435 was lighter.
Al
I noticed the master switch. That is a nice touch, and strangely, one main reason I scoffed at Husky all this time was their lack of a master switch. It looks a bit complex, but cool. I can see they really put a lot of thought into this one, and it looks like a great design! Thanks for showing such a thorough set of pics.
Good news about the 400 series. I've stayed away from the smaller Husqvarna's after a very bad experience with a re-badged Poulan, Husqvarna model 141. That saw was possessed, 20-30 pulls to get it to fire (if you were lucky), the fuel cap was crossthreaded right from the factory, and never did quit leaking, and it just would NOT hold a carburetor setting. The oiler only worked when it felt like it, etc, etc, etc. I spent more time pissing around with it during it's brief stay here than I did cutting wood with it.:censored: It simply would NOT stay running, or running well enough to stay in the inventory.
I have since added Echo models CS-370, CS-400, CS-510, and CS-360T to the pile, and absolutely love them. Dead solid reliable, and never need anything other than fuel and bar oil. 2-3 pulls to get them running, and they have very good power for their size.
I would certainly hope that Husqvarna, having made scores of saws which have obtained "lengendary" status, could/would put something in their line-up under $300 to compete with the Echo line? Looks like there may be some hope, cause I am very partial to the Husqvarna saws in my line-up. You've only got to run a 262XP with an 18" bar once to know why they developed such an excellent reputation.
.....Cliff
I have since added Echo models CS-370, CS-400, CS-510, and CS-360T to the pile, and absolutely love them. Dead solid reliable, and never need anything other than fuel and bar oil. 2-3 pulls to get them running, and they have very good power for their size.
I would certainly hope that Husqvarna, having made scores of saws which have obtained "lengendary" status, could/would put something in their line-up under $300 to compete with the Echo line? Looks like there may be some hope, cause I am very partial to the Husqvarna saws in my line-up. You've only got to run a 262XP with an 18" bar once to know why they developed such an excellent reputation.
.....Cliff
buck futter
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Here is what I found in the ipl the cylinder for each is the same, same exact number, however the piston is a different number and here is what I suspect and why.
I believe that the piston in the 435 is dished like on the 350 (45mm) and the 261. I believe this because the power is lower, the displacement is the same and the operating rpm is the same. So where does the power come from? Compression!
I actually like the plain old bar nut and chain adjuster. Its also a lighter saw all I would need is the flat top piston, I am sure for price of the piston you could upgrade to the 440e for less money. Argggghhhhh.
So how does this saw stack up to the doomars the tree-fiddy and the faw-twenny?
Comparo anyone?
buck
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Nice saw! I have the 211 and am amazed at the speed it has comapred to the 210 of old. in fact it cuts with the 250 that I was never a fan of. I would assume that it has the outboard clutch which would probably deter me from buying it but I like the build quality, at least from the pics and the snap off cover and not being a poulan makes it that much more appealing. Hopefully 2000 can run his 211 against it to see how they stack up. Also the price is less than the 211 which is another selling point. These homeowner saws don't worry me a bit as far as reliability, a local rental company only rents out the 250 and 210 and they last and last and i'm sure they get used and abused.
buck futter
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They are building a bunch of nice little saws now, I just wish husky and stihl would make a 38cc version of the 346xp, it would be kind of like what the little dolmars are, but if they could only shave a half pound or a little better off it.
Can you take a bunch of pics of your 211 like this with the covers off and such.
Thanks
B
Can you take a bunch of pics of your 211 like this with the covers off and such.
Thanks
B
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Why not the outboard clutch?
I know the sprockets are easier to change and an inboard clutch is better for making noodles. But really on a small saw like this - pick your sprocket and run the pee out of it - - - and the saw isn't big enough for serious ripping. So I'm not seeing it as a set back. I like the fact that the outboard clutch moves the bar closer to center of balance and makes for a more compact powerhead.
Any way I really like the little guy so far, and hopefully this series of saws will give Husky a bit more repect in the small saw market.
If 2000 can run it against his 211 that would be interesting. I'm looking forward to switching out the chain to the 20LP and see how that performs also, although it cut really well wih the factory chain.
Al
I know the sprockets are easier to change and an inboard clutch is better for making noodles. But really on a small saw like this - pick your sprocket and run the pee out of it - - - and the saw isn't big enough for serious ripping. So I'm not seeing it as a set back. I like the fact that the outboard clutch moves the bar closer to center of balance and makes for a more compact powerhead.
Any way I really like the little guy so far, and hopefully this series of saws will give Husky a bit more repect in the small saw market.
If 2000 can run it against his 211 that would be interesting. I'm looking forward to switching out the chain to the 20LP and see how that performs also, although it cut really well wih the factory chain.
Al
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I know the sprockets are easier to change and an inboard clutch is better for making noodles. But really on a small saw like this - pick your sprocket and run the pee out of it - - - and the saw isn't big enough for serious ripping. So I'm not seeing it as a set back. I like the fact that the outboard clutch moves the bar closer to center of balance and makes for a more compact powerhead.
Any way I really like the little guy so far, and hopefully this series of saws will give Husky a bit more repect in the small saw market.
If 2000 can run it against his 211 that would be interesting. I'm looking forward to switching out the chain to the 20LP and see how that performs also, although it cut really well wih the factory chain.
Al
The OB clutch has it pluses for sure. I love the 359 but was always a pain to have to hurry up an switch out a rocked chain in the field, other than that the clutch didn't bother me any. What is the hp rated on it?
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SawTroll
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The Dolmars are obviously better quality saws, with mag case etc.
I share your theory about the pistons......
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Exactly! :agree2:
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The USA husky site lists the HP at 2.2.
Al
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I'm not sure about the 40cc's then. I wanna run this thing to see what it does and if it performs beyond the rating. Stihl list the 211 at 2.3 hp at 36cc's. I bought my dad a echo 370 which is 37cc's and my 192t cuts circles around it and he loves my 211. With fathers day comin up I thought the 211 would make a nice gift bit it's a little pricey compared to the husky, not to mention he has always been a fan of the balance of the husqvarnas. Keep me posted on how it does as you break it in and if you put a tach to it. I just can't believe husky can only get 2.2 out of a 40cc saw. Is it using a micro style chain or is it the .325? Sorry to be a pain but i'm intigued by it since it is no lomger an orange poulan.
SawTroll
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The 440 is also listed at 40.9cc, and .2kW more (1.8 vs.1.6).
I believe in the dished piston theory, as mentioned by buck futter.
The 340 was listed at 2.0kw, but also was heavier.
The current Poulan assambled ones is the 235 and 240 - so this isn't a case of "no longer Poulan" - at least not yet......
Edit; Found the IPL, the cylinder and the muffler is the same, the piston is not!
More important, I just found out that the IPL library now is availiable again on the US website!
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How does it get labeled like this?
If you look in the upper left corner of the carton, under the model # it says 16" bar - 37cc!
These are the retail cartons one would find at Lowes etc. I can't imagine them producing a full color carton without checking the accuracy of the info?!? So is the 435 actually 37cc's???
Al
If you look in the upper left corner of the carton, under the model # it says 16" bar - 37cc!
These are the retail cartons one would find at Lowes etc. I can't imagine them producing a full color carton without checking the accuracy of the info?!? So is the 435 actually 37cc's???
Al
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huskystihl
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Its using .325 50Ga.
Al
If you get a chance throw up a video for all of us to see the speed. I stopped at a husky dealer , not my own and he said he wouldn't carry the lowes saws under 50cc because they were in fact poulan. Instead of arguing and pointing out newly found info I just said thanks and walked out. I would have to believe that the 211 with the 3/8 picco is gonna cut quicker but I really wanna see.
nikocker
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Just what Husky needs . . . more uninformed dealers!
Maybe 2000sm6 can do a video when he does his comparo. My saw is 75 miles away right now at my property up north.
It could be the 211 will be quicker - don't know as I've never ran one. I will say that the new 435 feels faster and smoother than my older 141 . . . and the 141's weren't the worst of the small Huskys. Mine is very dependable. I believe Saw Troll has said the 141's were built using Swedish Parts assembled in the US.
Al
SawTroll
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If you look in the upper left corner of the carton, under the model # it says 16" bar - 37cc!
These are the retail cartons one would find at Lowes etc. I can't imagine them producing a full color carton without checking the accuracy of the info?!? So is the 435 actually 37cc's???
Al
Hardly, as it use the same cylinder as the 440 - look at the IPL I posted (post 35).
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