Fish
Tree Freak
open a case now on e-bay, and PAYpal.
036 help!!!
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Sitting here thinking. Knowing how much money I already sunk into it, what would it cost parts/ timewise to replace the bearings in the crank.
At this point even if I send the saw back Im gonna lose out. If "all" I had to do was pull the the bearings then I'm sure I could resell it and at least recover the original purchase price.
I've just always wanted a dang 036.. I'm sure the dealer would give it back as he only gave me what he did cause of what I just sunk into it.
At this point even if I send the saw back Im gonna lose out. If "all" I had to do was pull the the bearings then I'm sure I could resell it and at least recover the original purchase price.
I've just always wanted a dang 036.. I'm sure the dealer would give it back as he only gave me what he did cause of what I just sunk into it.
Fish
Tree Freak
Open the cases, you will get your money back!!
So what's the plan? Should I follow up on your PM, or not?
I have my own disorders to manage!:msp_confused:
Poge
cutforfun
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quit trying to get in touch with the seller and open a case with fleebay claims, make sure you sent all your messages threw ebay and you will get a full refund, the seller is just hoping you wait to long and then you are screwed.
Well, I ended up buying this saw from the dealer you traded it to on your 362 deal. ('Preciate the PM info, btw.)
But out of curiosity, what led you to believe the crank bearings needed to be replaced? Your own assessment, or the dealer's? A basic check without actually splitting the case seems to indicate they're fine. I asked the dealer about the bearings and he just casually indicated "they sounded a little noisy" and "should probably be replaced just to be safe". Hmmmm......
Guess I'm wondering how he heard the "noisy" bearings or how you came to the conclusion they were bad if indeed you made your own call.:msp_confused:
But congrats on your new 362!
Poge
Fish
Tree Freak
Fish
Tree Freak
I still have the sick feeling that this saw was started by the buyer with no sprocket on the clutch....
Well, I ended up buying this saw from the dealer you traded it to on your 362 deal. ('Preciate the PM info, btw.)
But out of curiosity, what led you to believe the crank bearings needed to be replaced? Your own assessment, or the dealer's? A basic check without actually splitting the case seems to indicate they're fine. I asked the dealer about the bearings and he just casually indicated "they sounded a little noisy" and "should probably be replaced just to be safe". Hmmmm......
Guess I'm wondering how he heard the "noisy" bearings or how you came to the conclusion they were bad if indeed you made your own call.:msp_confused:
But congrats on your new 362!
Poge
He told me they were bad right when he fired it up for the first time. Maybe I shouldn't have trusted him??? But he was certain they would need replaced.
Believe what you will, but with all the other things that were bad on this saw it didnt surprise me one bit to find it that way.
The worm gear was completely melted, oil line had a hole cut through it, I'm assuming either from the clutch drum or the linkage on the worm gear.
The clutch drum was so wobbled out that it was just flopping in the breeze.
The seller denied anything being wrong with it which is crap, after the first time I ran it and took the cover off I saw oil all around the clutch drum which obviously wasn't from the oiler port.
That's when I pulled the drum off and the clutch literally fell of in pieces into my hand. Everything was saturated in oil, which pogo probably still sees some evidence of, I cleaned it as best I could.
I was just so fed up with the whole situation that I decided to just dump it and get a new one. EBay said it could take 30 days to get my money back.
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There was also some back and forth movement in the crank that looked to feed back into the bearing. Not sure if that's what led him to his diagnosis.
I gotta say though, I can't imagine these guys would have made that up, especially at the price they sold it to you at pogo.
Fish
Tree Freak
Just trying to go on with the info supplied. If the clutch came apart with the sprocket intact, it would have been a "controlled " event, and the damage would have been nil, unless someone kept running the saw I guess.....,.,.
But if the saw was bought on ebay with no sprocket, and the new owner didn't read the details, and he gassed and fired the saw without a sprocket, the clutch would have "grenaded" and caused all of the damage that you have described. Just thinking "outloud"......
But if the saw was bought on ebay with no sprocket, and the new owner didn't read the details, and he gassed and fired the saw without a sprocket, the clutch would have "grenaded" and caused all of the damage that you have described. Just thinking "outloud"......
Fish
Tree Freak
I don't mean to be picking on you, but I work on this **** for a living............
And if all was true from the get/go, out of the box, there would be no post here, but you would have done a lot of biatchin on ebay/paypal....
And if all was true from the get/go, out of the box, there would be no post here, but you would have done a lot of biatchin on ebay/paypal....
With the amount of oil that was inside the case there is no way the oiler just let loose at that second. It was literally packed in there, there wasnt anymore room fir another ounce of oil. And With the amount of wear on the inside of the clutch drum, it's just more evidence to me that this thing had issues. The thru hole where the needle bearing seats on the clutch was all hogged out, as if the chain had either been over tightened, or it was just flat out worn out.
At this point I'm really beyond caring. I wasn't waiting till February to get my money back, and I'm not gonna defend myself over a piece of junk some joker sold me.
Well if none of it's true I sure wasted a lot of my time telling a story now didn't I?
Even posted pics of all the oil too... If that happened in 10 seconds then I'm dang good!
Fish
Tree Freak
How are we to know what happened? To be honest, if you didn't give a "durn" about being "cheated", then this whole thread wouldn't be here then........
The gang here just has to go with what is posted/started.....
If it doesn't go exactly your way, well that is the risk you take.....
You may be totally in the "right", but you need to "fess" up with what is going on, or some guys may not buy into your original thread...
Sorry, just my thoughts....
I guess I don't know what else to tell you at this point my friend. I pull it outa the box, fire it up, notice the oil, pull the clutch drum, scratch the oil soaked clutch with my finger and the one shoe falls off, push the next and it falls. Take all of them out, find the hole in oil line, bad worm gear, . One pic you can see the wear on the pump from the clutch drum slop.
I fought and fought with the guy. Talked to eBay and they looked at his listing, the person I spoke with at eBay said his listing stated no returns, therefore I'd have a harder time getting my money back, and if I did it would take up to 30 days.
Starting to wonder if you're not the seller...dang...
The turd emailed me said he would take a return w refund. Then turned around said he'd give me $25 instead to take back my feedback.
In the end I was in a rush to get a saw cause I needed one this week and quickly fixed the oiler and clutch and dumped it for another saw.
I imagine if I wanted to drag it out over the next months I may have recovered some cash. Oh well.
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THALL10326
The Champ
What you bought is a well known issue with 036's. The sprocket bearing would let loose in them, sometimes the clutch carrier clips would break and get in behind the clutch and tear up hell. They would wipe out the oil line and the worm gear tang too. Sometimes the broken parts would get behind the clutch and grind a hole right through the crankcase. The major upgrade when the MS360 took
the 036's place was all in the clutch area. Check the end of the crankshaft real close and you will probably notice its concaved from all the movement of the sprocket flopping around on it, if it is she's DONE, not worth fooling with, crankshafts aren't cheap and a mint 036 isn't worth much over 300.00-350.00 if that..
When you heard that nasty noise when you first fired it up the damaged was already there when you bought it. Seller may claim not to have known but how he could not have seen all that oil pouring out from the cut oil line is doubtfull at best...
