Rigging out brush I ussally get away with 1/2" stable braid. SWL of 1000 lbs. gets me a large piece of brush. Must of the brush I have to rig out gets lifted to the anchor so the dynamics are low. I go as big as the tree and landing zone will let me. Getting into the wood I use 9/16' stable braid and 5/8" stable braid. I have a 3/4" that gets used once or twice a year in the fashion the Rocky describes.
3/4" or 1"
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I use 1/2" or smaller bullropes on just about everything I lower, until I get to the wood that gets shock loaded, like on the cover of Arborist News this month (man, that's an old picture).
John Paul Sanborn
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I use 1/2 inch for most rigging and may go to 5/8 for the big wood.
I will go as big as I can to fit the LZ then set up the next peice, this may entai moving a block or redirect, climbing out to tie off and then down to cut, so the time for the cleanup may not be all that big of a deal.
It works for me and seems to go faster then rigging a bunch of small stuff out.
But then as Brian has pointed out on several occasions, you have to work with the ground crew. Only Prima Donnas burry the groundies.
Nick, how small are those Jersey trees?
I will go as big as I can to fit the LZ then set up the next peice, this may entai moving a block or redirect, climbing out to tie off and then down to cut, so the time for the cleanup may not be all that big of a deal.
It works for me and seems to go faster then rigging a bunch of small stuff out.
But then as Brian has pointed out on several occasions, you have to work with the ground crew. Only Prima Donnas burry the groundies.
Nick, how small are those Jersey trees?
.....and 1" for lifeline?
Good thought....... in some dimensions 40# could be hard to get hold of correctly.
Devil's advocate hear, give MM a brake......
A single surgically removed 400#+ piece, can sometimes, be easier and safer removed than 5-6 75# pieces IMLHO. Sometimes the extra length and weight can be made to help not hinder, especially at close to balance (enough off to give definitive lead). If the length becomes your leveraged reach to place hitchpoint out under support point in clear zone (especially while still hinged; and the pull of the weight and it's balance give you the power to do so and the direction; then the game can change. As the htich point arrives under the support point, detatching the hinge (if still connected) can cause that end still over obstahcle to lift if green end is scheduled heaviest. Thereby the swing makes the green end clear aluminum screeened in 2 story enclosure; and the balance makes the stob end clear it, also acts as a softner /ballast to the green end sinking (the closer to balanced and the more 'feathers'/leaves, the slower more buffered the green end falls).
So if you can take all of your peaked focus and apply it one time you can take one surgical strike at full 1 time focus, balanced to keep itself in check peace; rather than always nickling and diming stuff out; without weighing balances of what each situation offers and restricts. Errrrrr ummm ehhhhh that is whats i read!
Isn't that the whole puzzle? What can i do with what i got to get where i want? Sometimes i think we overlook the load itself as intru-men-tall to strategically helping to it's own demise!
Orrrrr soemthing like that!
:alien:
Good thought....... in some dimensions 40# could be hard to get hold of correctly.
Devil's advocate hear, give MM a brake......
A single surgically removed 400#+ piece, can sometimes, be easier and safer removed than 5-6 75# pieces IMLHO. Sometimes the extra length and weight can be made to help not hinder, especially at close to balance (enough off to give definitive lead). If the length becomes your leveraged reach to place hitchpoint out under support point in clear zone (especially while still hinged; and the pull of the weight and it's balance give you the power to do so and the direction; then the game can change. As the htich point arrives under the support point, detatching the hinge (if still connected) can cause that end still over obstahcle to lift if green end is scheduled heaviest. Thereby the swing makes the green end clear aluminum screeened in 2 story enclosure; and the balance makes the stob end clear it, also acts as a softner /ballast to the green end sinking (the closer to balanced and the more 'feathers'/leaves, the slower more buffered the green end falls).
So if you can take all of your peaked focus and apply it one time you can take one surgical strike at full 1 time focus, balanced to keep itself in check peace; rather than always nickling and diming stuff out; without weighing balances of what each situation offers and restricts. Errrrrr ummm ehhhhh that is whats i read!
Isn't that the whole puzzle? What can i do with what i got to get where i want? Sometimes i think we overlook the load itself as intru-men-tall to strategically helping to it's own demise!
Orrrrr soemthing like that!
:alien:
MasterBlaster
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I like as large as I can get whenever I can for the same reason. Many times that intimidating load can be used upon itself, making the hard become easy.
I love to take whole leads (buttheavy) whenever its possible. Very little movement.
I love to take whole leads (buttheavy) whenever its possible. Very little movement.
John Paul Sanborn
Above average climber
Doing low friction rigging (or better stated, controled friction) with a winch we can take much of the dynamic loading out of the system, and utilize more of the MBS then the 10%.
I like ripping hardwoods apart lead by lead too. Set up the hobbs and do the whole tree from the main trunk. Butt heavy, tip heavy, balanced, swing...whatever it takes to get the brush into the whole. Gravy days. This thread was started by a guy with 1 month experience. You've got to know where the wood is going to go before you can safely lower 400 lb limbs. It would be a tough lesson to catch a 400+ pound limb in the chest. Gotta start small and work your way up.
Nebclimber's accident reminded me that the learning curve in this business can be unforgiving.
When in doubt...Whittle.
Nebclimber's accident reminded me that the learning curve in this business can be unforgiving.
When in doubt...Whittle.
MasterBlaster
TreeHouse Elder
Poor Neb!
When I think of all the things that shoulda happened when I started out I thank my Lucky Stars!Hey, Steven! Hope yur healing up okay!!!
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