30cc vs 50cc chainsaw for cutting 8" hardwood

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Would 50cc chainsaw cut any faster 8" hardwood than 30-35cc chainsaw ?
Well yes it would. The 50cc one will have 7 tooth drive with 8 optional for the size you state. The 35cc one will have 6 tooth drive. If you cut other than strictly crosscut as in cutting flush to the larger piece especially in hardwood things slow down. If you are speed oriented put 1.7 kw (2.2hp) as a minimum for your small saw. Even 45cc is quite a bit faster than 35 or 36cc. The time pulling brush may be so significant that the overall time hardly will make a difference. The smaller chains have less metal in the cutters so they sharpen easier.
 
Short answer is yes a 50cc is going to cut that size wood faster. Even my modified narrow kerf chained 30cc class climbing saws will not keep up with a high quality pro grade 50cc.

Honestly, I don’t think I would ever put a 12 or 14” bar on a 50cc saw. I use 16,18, and 20 inch on my 50cc saws depending on the application. That’s just my preference though.

Not all, but some other factors that play into it are chain speed and type. Some saws have faster chain speeds therefore are usually going to cut faster when used properly. It is very difficult to explain every aspect that influences how fast a saw cuts.

More importantly, if you can handle a 50cc saw without issues then go for it as it will cut faster and be less bending or over reaching.
 
I am close to getting ms212 - 38cc.
I have ms170.

I need backup saw as i drive 100 miles to where i use them.

And really want to be sure at least one will run.

Otherwise i would just stay with 1 saw.
 
I am close to getting ms212 - 38cc.
I have ms170.

I need backup saw as i drive 100 miles to where i use them.

And really want to be sure at least one will run.

Otherwise i would just stay with 1 saw.
The ms212 has .7 horsepower more so you should see a difference in cutting speed.

I agree with having a backup saw given the distance for sure. I always have several saws with me no matter what because all sorts of things happen and have happened to me.

Not sure what type of chains you use but you will see a speed improvement by going with “non-safety” if you are not already.
 
The ms212 has .7 horsepower more so you should see a difference in cutting speed.

I agree with having a backup saw given the distance for sure. I always have several saws with me no matter what because all sorts of things happen and have happened to me.

Not sure what type of chains you use but you will see a speed improvement by going with “non-safety” if you are not already.
If you have an MS170, step up to 50cc. Why buy a duplicate size saw? All the major brands have something in that range. Husky 545, Stihl 261, Echo 501. Try to find a discontinued Echo 4910 for a smaller wallet. Skip the newer Echo 4920
 
I am close to getting ms212 - 38cc.
I have ms170.

I need backup saw as i drive 100 miles to where i use them.

And really want to be sure at least one will run.

Otherwise i would just stay with 1 saw.
I just noticed that you are in Europe. The MS241 is a 42cc killer saw that is no longer available in the US.
If you can afford it, you should consider it, and put a light 16" 3/8LP/picco bar and chain on it and you will not regret it.
It is a pro-level saw that fights WAY above its weight class.

MS170 - 1,3kw, 30cc, 3,9kg
MS212 - 1,8kW, 38cc, 4,6kg
MS241 - 2,4kW, 42cc, 4,5kg

Both can run the same bar/chain setups....
 
Short answer is that it depends on the 30cc saw. A lot of the saws in the 30-45cc range weigh 9.5-10.5 lb which is about what an 026/261 weighs. If the saw is going to weigh over 9 lbs, then I want a 261 because its a very powerful 50cc saw and I can't tell the difference between carrying around a 9.5 35cc saw all day and a 10.8 lb 50cc saw. I'd actually say the 9.5 lb 35cc saw wears me out quite a bit more because it cuts firewood noticeably slower.

For purely a limbing saw, I've looked at the Echo 2511P several times. The only reason I haven't bought one is because they don't yet have a good presence on the used market meaning I'm too cheap to pay for one. For anything up to 4", I think it would be a very good choice. I don't cut any firewood smaller than 6", and most of it is in the 12"-20" range, so I mostly use my 026 for limbing and my 036 for bucking.

A short story that opened my eye's to the value of a small, light saw. I've only run one saw that was less than 9 lbs (Echo 350 I think). It belonged to a friend of mine and we were doing some disaster relief work down in TN. He's in his 70s and had tweaked his back slightly a few days before, so he stayed off the saws. When we asked ahead of time I was told there were some bigger trees to deal with so I took an 036 and my 066 clone, but left my 026 at home. When we got there, we ended up working a different area that had mostly small cedars, and most of it was under 6". After the first few trips up and down the hills with my 036, it was time to refuel and my friend told me to take his little saw up and run it to get some hours on it. I think it weighed around 6 lb and was PERFECT for what we were doing. Cutting a 12" log required a little bit of patience, but it zipped right through the little stuff (>4") which was 90% of the work. I ran that saw the rest of the day and left both of mine at the bottom of the hill in the truck.
 
Echo 2511 rear handle, l like it.

Would it cut 8" easy ? Guess so.

Not sure if i would ever find a spare guide bar if need be.

Which guide bar mount is it ? A041 ?
 
Don't understand how ms261 is going to cut faster than 35cc saw when rpms are roughly the same and not slowing down.

Its only <8" stuff.

One has narrow kerf one does not.

Maybe longer between sharpening on ms261.

I would really like to believe ms261 cuts way faster, but don't see the theory behind it.
 
Before the weather got obnoxious I was working some deadfalls laying up a slope steep enough it was difficult to stand, rigging them back up over the top and no-go letting them roll down. The trunks were getting to be large- well over 20" (50cm) and crotches up to nearly 30" (70cm). Because of the poor footing and its light weight I used my basic little 14" Echo CS-310 even on that big stuff to make manageable lengths I could turn and roll up and out. As above, you have to let the little saws take their time when the wood is big- part of the job.

With the wood up on the crest, then I put the little saw away and finished with the old Homelite & 30" bar.

Cutting up 8" stuff on unchallenging terrain is one thing, having a light saw available in less agreeable circumstances is another thing entirely. "Cutting faster" amounts to a few seconds- if you have to move the wood afterwards cutting speed doesn't really matter in comparison. Maybe you're fortunate enough to only cut and someone else does the cleanup?
 
You've made couple of good points there.

All trees are entirely on sloped terrain. Low to medium steep.

For the past 5 years i did all the cleanup myself.

But this time around i am planning to cleanup not on my own.
 
Ms172, ms182, ms212, Easy to Use, Easy to Maintain, Reliable

all 3 can be bought for the price of ms 241.

If money is no object then maybe yes ms 241.
With that said, delete your account and never come back lol. I’d buy a ms241c in a heartbeat if we could still get them here before you could give me the 3 you listed.
 
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ms 241 c-m

mtronic only

A lot of people would take ms 241.

But it has its price.
 
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