346XP @ 15K or 260 @ 14,500K

[PA Plumber]

Since we are discussing Husky vs. Stihl ...

This might allow me to bring up something that has been running through my small mind for a while.

Why do Huskies have little nuts?? (Com'on fellas, Bar Nuts of course.) Do the bar bolts torque off easily? Just wondering, I snapped an Echo Bar stud today.

 

[BIGBORE577]

With the 260, time stood Stihl.

 

[PA Plumber]

With the 260, time stood Stihl.

 

[IchWarriorMkII]

Well I missed the idea of the thread, I was after the 260 because it has awesome crazy rip your lips off torque...

... for a 50cc saw I guess.


Ideally, you'd have 353 modded for torque... then it would monkey stomp everything :hmm3grin2orange:


Pay no mind to me:help:

 

[Pablo26]

I like the idea of my 026 getting that kind of treatment someday after never a repair, but as for new and stock I'll take the 346xp, would like to try one.
For now the 16" on the 357 will have to do

 

[timberwolf]

How many you built Ben?

I wont argue that the 346 may be a better stock saw, it may well come of the line with a beter setup, but this says little about the potential modded, in general the beter the saw is to start with the harder it is to find gains.

One aspect on the 026 that linits it is base volume, on pipe it would do well to have more space for the pipe to charge up, in that case the 346 is an easier target, however base volume can too be added.

In many ways when taking moddified saws, it comes down to CC and the 346 is not a winner on that angle.

 

[bwalker]

We are talking woodsaws, not race saws.

 

[timberwolf]

Ben, Yes, Woods saws.

Ands its the same old great debate, 260/346/5100... 361/357/359... 460/372/7900...

If we are talking about woods saws then who realy cares if a 346 cuts 3.3 cord of wood in a day and a 260 cut 3.2 the next day, but then again you had a couple brews the night before.... Realy you can't say squat about the two saws based on results like that.

Now if you set up running against the clock that is another story, Don't see you posting any video and timed cuts? Why is the burden of proof so low on your claims, but so high on anything presented by others.

 

[bookerdog]

Okay boys, just got my 346 sacket today from dean. She is a screemer. Ran her against my new 372 xpw and the 346 kicked its butt with safety chain on.

16 inch fir

346 16inch bar with stock safety chain 20 sec.

372xpw 32in bar woodsman pro rc skip 21 sec

24 inch fir

346 30 sec

372 33 sec

12 inch maple fell limbed and bucked 15min

The 346 is a 3tplus from dean at washington pro saws.

 

[Engineeringnerd]

O.K., let's be reasonable here! I too cut with a 346 and a 372 today; I love them both. The 346 is great for limbing and occasional bigger cuts, but the 372 was born for 20" lumber. I'm surprised any 346 could hold it's own against a 372, even total stock. Of course if you throw a couple hundred into it, I guess it's possible. Now throw $50 into the 372 and watch it fry the 346. Just save the $50 and buy $0.001 of electricity to drill a 1/2" hole in the 372's muffler and it should eat the 346. Put in a couple hundred, and it wouldn't even come to the party.

Now, fess up what you did to the 346 so I can copy it!

 

[bookerdog]

O.K., let's be reasonable here! I too cut with a 346 and a 372 today; I love them both. The 346 is great for limbing and occasional bigger cuts, but the 372 was born for 20" lumber. I'm surprised any 346 could hold it's own against a 372, even total stock. Of course if you throw a couple hundred into it, I guess it's possible. Now throw $50 into the 372 and watch it fry the 346. Just save the $50 and buy $0.001 of electricity to drill a 1/2" hole in the 372's muffler and it should eat the 346. Put in a couple hundred, and it wouldn't even come to the party.

Now, fess up what you did to the 346 so I can copy it!

You would have to ask dean what he did, but if you want it done its 450.00
Now sure you could put a couple of hundred in the 372 and it would eat the 346 up, but you also are carrying around a extra 4 pounds

 

[bwalker]

Now if you set up running against the clock that is another story, Don't see you posting any video and timed cuts? Why is the burden of proof so low on your claims, but so high on anything presented by others.

Do what you like, but if it where me and my money Id rather start with a corvette than a pinto. Especially since the vette in this case costs the same or less money.

 

[motosierra]

You would have to ask dean what he did, but if you want it done its 450.00
Now sure you could put a couple of hundred in the 372 and it would eat the 346 up, but you also are carrying around a extra 4 pounds

Believe half of what you see.... and be skeptical of what you read...especially on AS

 

[timberwolf]

Hardly a realistic draw between two cars that are not at all in the same class and two saws that are very much in the same class, but if you like how it works for you...

16 inch fir

346 16inch bar with stock safety chain 20 sec.

372xpw 32in bar woodsman pro rc skip 21 sec

24 inch fir

346 30 sec

372 33 sec

Gets pretty tough to cut 16 inch wood with a 16 inch bar, would have though that would have hurt the time a lot, How did you cut the 24 inch wood with the 16 inch bar?

Realy got to put the same chain setup on each saw and try it before it means anything.

It does not surprise me that a substantially modified ~ 50 cc saw cuts close to a ~ 70 cc bone stock. Output and displacement are pretty closely tied together the 372 has 50% extra on the CC count, but a muffler mod can net a quick 20% and a decent port job another 20-25% compounded together gives a 50% boost to the smaller saw. Lots of variables though with chain, wood size and gearing. Usually smaller ported revers clean up bigger stockers in small wood, but start to loose ground if pushed into a big log where bigger saws have the torque advantage.

 

[timberwolf]

Somethings fishy

16 inch log is 201 square inches of wood, 24 inch log is 452 square inches. A cut in a 24 inch log should take at leat 2.25 times as long as a 16 inch log, in reality even longer as chip cleaning and keeping the saw in the power band become more a problem.

Only 1.5 times as long going from 16 to 24 inch, sounds off unless there are other things going on with dull chain...

 

[bwalker]

IN all but the smallest wood a stock, but muffler modded 372 wearing a 8 pin and a 16" bar/chain will smoke a ported 346 wearing the same bar/chain setup with a 7 pin.
I know this to be fact, because I have tried it myself.

 

[bwalker]

Believe half of what you see.... and be skeptical of what you read...especially on AS

The following comment isnt aimed at Dean, but he aboce quot is spot on.
I remember a while back a guy on this board raved about how fast his mod saw was. Turned out the only thing done to it was a muffler mod.... that guy hasnt been back since.

 

[chowdozer]

How did you cut the 24 inch wood with the 16 inch bar?

I nominate that for question of the week! LOL

 

[bookerdog]

You have to start with the saw over the top and work it around the log and then getting the last of it from under. I am sending the 372xpw to dean because when he found out about the difference he said that the 372xpw was plugged up and needed to be opened up. I can tell that the saw is stoved up just by the way it runs.

 

[bookerdog]

Somethings fishy

16 inch log is 201 square inches of wood, 24 inch log is 452 square inches. A cut in a 24 inch log should take at leat 2.25 times as long as a 16 inch log, in reality even longer as chip cleaning and keeping the saw in the power band become more a problem.

Only 1.5 times as long going from 16 to 24 inch, sounds off unless there are other things going on with dull chain...

Now also both saws are new and only have a couple of tanks though them. So they are picking up time as we go.