bookerdog
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Everyone here can believe what they want. You are all welcome to come to my place and cut with me anytime.
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Tzed250
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If a 346 is a corvette the an MS361 is a Porsche Carrera GT
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=105476
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FirstDrives/articleId=105476
SawTroll
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What kind of "satety chain" was that? - if Oregon LP, it probably is one of the fastest-cutting standard chains out there........
I also believe that the 372 was severely handicapped, by the 32" bar, and the skip chain.........:bang:
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MAG58
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Hey remember that the 346 is from Sweden, so it's not like a Corvette but more like the Koenigsegg from Sweden
http://www.koenigsegg.com/images/index.asp
SWE#Kipp
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Hey remember that the 346 is from Sweden, so it's not like a Corvette but more like the Koenigsegg from Sweden
http://www.koenigsegg.com/images/index.asp
timberwolf
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Sure cutting a 24 inch log with a 16 inch bar can be done crawling on to of the log at the start and then under it to finish, but times will suffer a lot, esp with safety chain as the tip basically won't cut by design.
The times you give would be of much greater value (and more belivable) if the same bar length and chain was used in both tests in reasonable sized wood for both bars. anything much over 12 inch wood on a 16 inch bar starts to throw cut times off as it won't cut straight through on the flat of the bar.
The times you give would be of much greater value (and more belivable) if the same bar length and chain was used in both tests in reasonable sized wood for both bars. anything much over 12 inch wood on a 16 inch bar starts to throw cut times off as it won't cut straight through on the flat of the bar.
Engineeringnerd
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These last few posts have been pretty interesting. I purchased my 346 before my 372. I used to use the 346 for most everything because it out cut my old EB 3.7, even with a 20" bar. I still love having the two-saw 346/372 combo, using each for its intended purpose.
If I have to only take one saw into the woods, I'm packing the 372 wearing a 24" bar and possibly taking along the 20" bar for limbing and even the 32" if I expect some big cuts. Granted the 346 is ideal for the limbing cuts, but it really doesn't excel at the larger stuff. The 372 limbs really well, albeit with a few extra pounds over the 346. What amazes me on the 372 is that it can carry the 32" bar with skip when needed. Not ideal, but it works if you have a few extra seconds.
If I was going to have only one saw, I'd have to vote for the 70cc class, whether the 046, 372, or 7900. I think all of them do their owners proud.
If I have to only take one saw into the woods, I'm packing the 372 wearing a 24" bar and possibly taking along the 20" bar for limbing and even the 32" if I expect some big cuts. Granted the 346 is ideal for the limbing cuts, but it really doesn't excel at the larger stuff. The 372 limbs really well, albeit with a few extra pounds over the 346. What amazes me on the 372 is that it can carry the 32" bar with skip when needed. Not ideal, but it works if you have a few extra seconds.
If I was going to have only one saw, I'd have to vote for the 70cc class, whether the 046, 372, or 7900. I think all of them do their owners proud.
It hard to argue with that train of thought. The 70cc saws excell at just about everything.
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THALL10326
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Yup, hard to disagree, but some places, like here, 60cc will do it......
Hand saw works fine on 2x4's. I have a ported one with a strong right arm, who wants to race,LOL
I havent found anythign a 60cc saw is great at.
Doesnt buck firewood like a 70cc saw and it isnt as nimble as a 50cc saw when limbing.
In my mind that 60cc saw is a rather specialized machine built for the guy cutting pulp or a guy cleaning up tops after logging operations. Although a 70cc saw would do both of these with only a little extra weight.
SawTroll
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..sort of expected that answer, no hard feelings......
I will test out the 70cc option this year, to see how much differense the 2 lbs really makes........
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timberwolf
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Guess everyone has there own preferences, I find I spend most time cutting with a 60 cc saw, Fire wood sized stuff in the 10-12 inch the 60 cc saw seams to make up for the couple pounds of weight over a 50 cc saw, might clean up limbs with a 50cc saw, but don't find I pick up the 70 cc saw too often, if it is justified to go up from 60, then I love the chance to put the 066 to work.
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B_Turner
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Of the 11 saws I own and run, none of them is around 60cc. I tend to use a 7900 for most cuttting (24 on one and 28 on the other), bigger saws when cutting bigger wood, and maybe my 5100 for limbing or quick trims on smaller stuff.
The odd occasion when I sort of wish I had something with more grunt than the 5100 but a bit lighter than a 372 or 7900 is when I tweak my back a bit. Like today, after yesterday wrestling some particularly heavy american chestnut chunks out of a homeowners back yard garden. Really awkward situation, and that stuff is heavy enough that when I throw blocks into water tanks, they race to the bottom like a stone.
But generally I don't mind the extra couple lbs of a 70+ cc saw and they cut so much faster and easier than a smaller saw I find it easier on me at days end. But then I am very seldom cutting anything less than 18 inches diameter and more typically in the upper 20's.
The odd occasion when I sort of wish I had something with more grunt than the 5100 but a bit lighter than a 372 or 7900 is when I tweak my back a bit. Like today, after yesterday wrestling some particularly heavy american chestnut chunks out of a homeowners back yard garden. Really awkward situation, and that stuff is heavy enough that when I throw blocks into water tanks, they race to the bottom like a stone.
But generally I don't mind the extra couple lbs of a 70+ cc saw and they cut so much faster and easier than a smaller saw I find it easier on me at days end. But then I am very seldom cutting anything less than 18 inches diameter and more typically in the upper 20's.
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SawTroll
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TW, IMO a properly woods ported 346 eats up 10-12" firewood like theres now tommorow. Certainly the ported 361 I had was very little if any faster at this particular task, though when the wood got a little bigger it began to walk away.
I almost bought a 660 as I process very large cull logs into firewood and there are times when my ported 372 has its hands full, but I couldn't justify buying a $1000 saw for such infrequent occasions.
Thall, 60cc saws are not big sellers in the parts of MI I have lived in. Guys in NW Ontario seem to like them though.
I almost bought a 660 as I process very large cull logs into firewood and there are times when my ported 372 has its hands full, but I couldn't justify buying a $1000 saw for such infrequent occasions.
Thall, 60cc saws are not big sellers in the parts of MI I have lived in. Guys in NW Ontario seem to like them though.
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Engineeringnerd
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Turner,
Given your familiarity of both the 372 and 7900, How do you stack them against each other, given similar modifications or lack there-of? Be gentle to those of us who love our 372's!
Given your familiarity of both the 372 and 7900, How do you stack them against each other, given similar modifications or lack there-of? Be gentle to those of us who love our 372's!
SawTroll
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I expect that I will arrive at the same conclution, but we will see.........
OOOppppssss, admittedly, 10-12" wood is a bit small to make this meaningful, 12-15" is more realistic, and 8-pin sprockets, of course.......
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When both are stone stock the 7900 is faster. When both are muffler modded the 7900 is slightly faster.
