36" too much for stock 441?

[newb]

I have a 25" set up on my 66 with a 32" if I need it. I couldn't imagine running a 32" or bigger on a 44. Just me, I like more saw than chain. Pete

 

[chevytaHOE5674]

I hate how slow my modded 460 is with 32" full comp chain. I get used to how nice the 066 or 084 cut with long bars, and when i am forced to use the 32" with the 460 i cringe. It does get the job done, but it isn't a fun process.

 

[ShoerFast]

Why can't a 441 pull 36" of RSKL-F ?

It dose not have to be fast, it needs to get a job done.

It has been a couple years since I posted a vid of a 310 pulling a 36" bar in Ponderosia Pine, it was not fast, but it got the job done.

Running .020 DG's will help, rocking the bar so your not making a contunious cut with the whole bar will help keep the chain speed up.

Most can agree that 36" is more of a 660 kind of bar, there is no replacement for displacement, period. But most here could do a lot of cutting with a 36" bar on a paid for saw. What will making it work save you, a $grand and some change?

 

[Stihl Alive]

I might have to get the trailer and the saw. :censored: it. I have to have something bigger to haul wood, but I'm never going to have the chance to get a 1200 dollar saw for half price again. I'll just have to take the :censored: storm from my wife for a few months. Maybe this will warm her up to the idea that I'm going to have to trade in my prestine Chevy 1500 after the new year or risk ruining it towing so much. I dunno. Someone make a decision for me. I'm going nutz.

PS: I had a great time felling today even if I did face plant into the mud. I had the chance to learn a lot of things without any great danger. I did, however, get three trees hung up at once and had to take about an hour break deciding what to do. I wish I would have taken pictures, I know you guys would have told me a safer way to get out of that mess, but I ended up getting them all down.

 

[ShoerFast]

I might have to get the trailer and the saw. :censored: it. I have to have something bigger to haul wood, but I'm never going to have the chance to get a 1200 dollar saw for half price again. I'll just have to take the :censored: storm from my wife for a few months. Maybe this will warm her up to the idea that I'm going to have to trade in my prestine Chevy 1500 after the new year or risk ruining it towing so much. I dunno. Someone make a decision for me. I'm going nutz.

PS: I had a great time felling today even if I did face plant into the mud. I had the chance to learn a lot of things without any great danger. I did, however, get three trees hung up at once and had to take about an hour break deciding what to do. I wish I would have taken pictures, I know you guys would have told me a safer way to get out of that mess, but I ended up getting them all down.

Not that there is a safe way...

I have taken hangers down by cutting in to the tree from both sides , leaving a good sized hinge.

Hooking up a ratching cable-winch high on the bottom part, pull till it brakes.

Again, there is nothing safe about it, sometime the tree is still hung up, and sometime the bottom falls in, and the top could come your way.

Having a lot of escape routes is a must.

Having a lot of bull-rope would be second to not making any hangers.

Back in the day, we would leave a hanger and see what the wind would do, to me that is not an option anymore, cause that would be the time someone could come mossying through.

 

[Rftreeman]

It's really really hard to resist getting a brand new 660 at half price though. But I still can't justify it right now.

I can justify buying it, where's it at?????

 

[Stihl Alive]

I can justify buying it, where's it at?????

no dice home slice. This guy owes me a couple grand from a few years ago. He's a bit of a crack head so I never expected the money back. But his grandmother inherited a few million dollars and gave him a credit card with no limit. For the past 6 months he's been randomly paying people's bills, and ordering things online for them for half price so he can have the cash. I feel kind of dirty, but he's going to do it for someone anyway, and HE OWES ME. I ordered about $230 of PPE and rope from Bailey's last week and gave him $100. I would just have him call the dealer, place my order, then pay him half in cash and go pick it up. I really want this saw. The trailer is going anywhere soon so I think I'll get the saw, then just buy the trailer from that guy after xmas and I've done one or two real paying jobs.

 

[Rftreeman]

no dice home slice. This guy owes me a couple grand from a few years ago. He's a bit of a crack head so I never expected the money back. But his grandmother inherited a few million dollars and gave him a credit card with no limit. For the past 6 months he's been randomly paying people's bills, and ordering things online for them for half price so he can have the cash. I feel kind of dirty, but he's going to do it for someone anyway, and HE OWES ME. I ordered about $230 of PPE and rope from Bailey's last week and gave him $100. I would just have him call the dealer, place my order, then pay him half in cash and go pick it up. I really want this saw. The trailer is going anywhere soon so I think I'll get the saw, then just buy the trailer from that guy after xmas and I've done one or two real paying jobs.

I sent you a pm

 

[Stihl Alive]

I caved. The saw has been ordered and I'm picking it up tomorrow. :greenchainsaw:

 

[Rftreeman]

Sounds like you may be getting yourself involved in a future police investigation.

how's that, the guy is using a legit credit card that he got from his granny? if he wants to buy stuff and sell it for less that's on him, nothing illegal going on that I see.

 

[buzz sawyer]

how's that, the guy is using a legit credit card that he got from his granny? if he wants to buy stuff and sell it for less that's on him, nothing illegal going on that I see.

I agree, nothing illegal but he could still be connected with the "cracked" side of the guy. I think I would just demand the cash he owes me and let him get it however he wants to, then buy the saw outright.

 

[sawinredneck]

It doesn't pass the sniff test and I'm a couple of hundred miles away!

I'm suggesting he proceed with caution. Maybe he could get a few extra and saws and sell a few to you! Just kidding.

I don't think Grandma would approve.

Doesn't pass Dan? This is six week old fish man!!!:jawdrop: :jawdrop:

The world must be off i's axis or something, I find I am agreeing with about six of ten of you're posts:jawdrop:

 

[tree MDS]

no dice home slice. This guy owes me a couple grand from a few years ago. He's a bit of a crack head so I never expected the money back. But his grandmother inherited a few million dollars and gave him a credit card with no limit. For the past 6 months he's been randomly paying people's bills, and ordering things online for them for half price so he can have the cash. I feel kind of dirty, but he's going to do it for someone anyway, and HE OWES ME. I ordered about $230 of PPE and rope from Bailey's last week and gave him $100. I would just have him call the dealer, place my order, then pay him half in cash and go pick it up. I really want this saw. The trailer is going anywhere soon so I think I'll get the saw, then just buy the trailer from that guy after xmas and I've done one or two real paying jobs.

This is priceless. Glad I found this one. You gotta love the honesty in this post, for real. Treeguy struggling to get ahead sees deal from crackhead (that already owes him $ anyhow) that looks legal = why not?

Only thing I can think of is possible reprocussions showing up latter.

One thing I've learned from watching to much Court TV is that you never realize how tracable things are. What if its not really his granny's credit card?

Who leaves a crackhead a credit card for an inheritance anyway?, lol.

 

[Stihl Alive]

This is priceless. Glad I found this one. You gotta love the honesty in this post, for real. Treeguy struggling to get ahead sees deal from crackhead (that already owes him $ anyhow) that looks legal = why not?

Only thing I can think of is possible reprocussions showing up latter.

One thing I've learned from watching to much Court TV is that you never realize how tracable things are. What if its not really his granny's credit card?

Who leaves a crackhead a credit card for an inheritance anyway?, lol.

I know his granny, have my whole life. Its her card. She knows what he does with it. SHE inherited the money, not him. She gave him the cards so 1. he could always eat, and 2. so he would not steal from anyone. She pays the bill every month and lets him use the cards as he sees fit.. He's not going to stop smoking crack, because he doesn't want to. We used to be good friends in high school but drifted apart when I went to college and he started doing more drugs. I know there are dozens of ethical questions that can be asked about this situation, but I don't feel guilty about it. He told me he could either spend all week trying to get people to let him pay their cable bill, or buy bigger things less often. Its easier on him that way. Either way its going to happen. Ethical/Not ethical, right/wrong. Still gonna happen. I just saw him in Greenville last night and talked for a while. Hehehe, he actually told me his grandmother wants to take down three pines around her house and was going to give me a call.

By the way that 660 runs like a dream. I love it.

 

[tree MDS]

I know his granny, have my whole life. Its her card. She knows what he does with it. SHE inherited the money, not him. She gave him the cards so 1. he could always eat, and 2. so he would not steal from anyone. She pays the bill every month and lets him use the cards as he sees fit.. He's not going to stop smoking crack, because he doesn't want to. We used to be good friends in high school but drifted apart when I went to college and he started doing more drugs. I know there are dozens of ethical questions that can be asked about this situation, but I don't feel guilty about it. He told me he could either spend all week trying to get people to let him pay their cable bill, or buy bigger things less often. Its easier on him that way. Either way its going to happen. Ethical/Not ethical, right/wrong. Still gonna happen. I just saw him in Greenville last night and talked for a while. Hehehe, he actually told me his grandmother wants to take down three pines around her house and was going to give me a call.

By the way that 660 runs like a dream. I love it.

So basically you got that saw from granny - who you have known all your life!

Nice guy, lol.

Or, hehehe (sorry)

 

[Stihl Alive]

So basically you got that saw from granny - who you have known all your life!

Nice guy, lol.

Or, hehehe (sorry)

that's correct.

 

[tree MDS]

Hey Stihl Alive, I was just bustin yer a$$ - newsflash: I do that sometimes.

I probably would have done the same thing - or at least would have been very tempted to.

Thats some sad enabling going on there with poor granny and that crackhead
grandson though. I kind of makes me sad to hear of it.

Of course sonny boy dont want to quit with a setup like that. What a waste of money and life.

Bad drug that crack. The only thing worse is the big H.

Oh well, enjoy the saw, peace MDS

 

[Stihl Alive]

Hey Stihl Alive, I was just bustin yer a$$ - newsflash: I do that sometimes.

I probably would have done the same thing - or at least would have been very tempted to.

Thats some sad enabling going on there with poor granny and that crackhead
grandson though. I kind of makes me sad to hear of it.

Of course sonny boy dont want to quit with a setup like that. What a waste of money and life.

Bad drug that crack. The only thing worse is the big H.

Oh well, enjoy the saw, peace MDS

no big deal man, I didn't take it to heart. I wouldn't have posted it if I didn't want to spark discussion. The situation looks diffferent from everyone's angle. I've known this family forever and dont' feel bad about what I'm doing, but I also want stuff. But I didn't feel bad when he paid his ex girlfriend's car payment with it for 5 months either.

This topic did raise another question though: Does anyone buy things from pawn shops? If so, do you ever feel guilty? Do you think every item (especially big items) was brought in there by some honest hard working guy thatjust needed a little quick cash?

 

[showrguy]

hey stihlalive, this is a good story, since there's no guilt here, ya might as well whack granny 600 bucks for the three pines, then you got your new saw for free ?????
sorry, i just had to add to this thread..

 

[Stihl Alive]

I met him today just to chat for a while. He was making a purchase on the card for a WII (not me) and the company called Granny. She approved the purchase. She knows, she's fine. She just doesn't want him stealing or hungry. She is rich and old so she did the best she could I guess. Like I said, I knew you guys would break ballz about it, it doesn't bother me. Carry on.