372xp? 575xp?

[asb151]

Hi asb151,

I just re-read my post that you quoted and I want to apologize. That statement sounds sarcastic but it wasn`t meant to be. I should have said maybe I missed them.

It`s hard switching off the sarcasm.

Russ

Russ, no need to apologize for that....but thanks.

Aaron

 

[rdbee]

You got it, Boss

If your thinkin' 385 might better bite the bullet and go with a 395 for the mere ounces of weight difference and not that many dollars. 30-40 inch is decent size wood if you're in it all day. In my experience a 395 is a little more reliable too.

 

[chainsawworld]

i am sorry to hear of your loss.
for great all around satisfaction go with the 372. i have yet to talk to a husky dealer that has not found the 575 to be a disappointment. maybe if given time they will make improvements. when the 357 first came to me to "find the bugs". one big problem i found was the tank could not vent as fast as the saw burned fuel off. they tried a vent on the cap but i found the dirt would get stuck in the valve and the saw would leak gas from the cap. i did hear of a problem with the connecting rod bearings but husky thought it may have been a mix issue. opps, got of the topic. anyway, a 372 with a 20" bar and chain should be just dandy. marty

 

[davidwyby]

Thank you all for your kind words.

As far as the SoCal weather thing, a guy here asked me if we'd had our first freeze yet...I laughed. I've worn a jacket maybe 3 mornings this year. I don't like cold.

How much of a difference does it make whether or not you use a bar that is as long as the dia of the log? That's kinda what I was looking at, but I know it's not necessary. I may try some full-skip on my Jonsy (other suggestions?) and take it easy, see if I can get it done that way. If not, or I end up doing more woodbutchering, I'll prolly head for a 395 or so. I figger I will have one or two Jonsys for smaller stuff, might as well go big enough that I won't have any trouble. Still like to stay close to $500 though

Another thought...I talked to a longtime small engine shop owner at length yesterday, even though I told him I prolly wouldn't buy a saw (I'm still in Tex)...he swears by Echo. Some of the points he made were the grease field anti vibes in 6 points (vs my Jonsy's 3-4), 14,500 RPM, full syn oil. They are also pretty lightweight. My understanding from the boards is that they are good saws, but maybe lacking in power in the larger sizes. They also only have two big saws to choose from...but the prices are right too. Guy on forestry forum has a 670 he really like and has had compliments on. Also happens to be an Echo dealer in my town, a company we do business with regularly. Kinda doubt if they have a good saw tech tho.

EDIT: They had a 670 there, didn't run it but swung it around, 14 lbs aint heavy. Need to try something like 16-17 lbs. I think Ben (my son) weighs about that much right now, but, he don't have a 36" bar Does like to make chainsaw noises tho, geat kid

 

[SawTroll]

Echo 670

...... My understanding from the boards is that they are good saws, but maybe lacking in power in the larger sizes. .....

I have never touched an Echo 670, but according to the specs I have been able to find, it will be lacking severely in power compared to the 372xp.

A comparison to the Husky 365 would be more fair, but the Echo will loose that one too, as it still has less power and more weight.

I think it is not without a reason that Echo keep a very low profile regarding the :censored: power output of their saws.

 

[GLOBOTREE]

Some features I like about the 575 are the fat handle and large throttle trigger.
Does the 372 have the double intake tracks like on the 575?

 

[davidwyby]

I have never touched an Echo 670, but according to the specs I have been able to find, it will be lacking severely in power compared to the 372xp.

A comparison to the Husky 365 would be more fair, but the Echo will loose that one too, as it still has less power and more weight.

I think it is not without a reason that Echo keep a very low profile regarding the :censored: power output of their saws.

I agree that the power output thing is suspicious...but i hear they run higher RPMs than most...would that help? Guy on another board has a 670 he likes and that he get compliments and questions on.

 

[jp hallman]

i am sorry to hear of your loss.
for great all around satisfaction go with the 372. i have yet to talk to a husky dealer that has not found the 575 to be a disappointment. maybe if given time they will make improvements. when the 357 first came to me to "find the bugs". one big problem i found was the tank could not vent as fast as the saw burned fuel off. they tried a vent on the cap but i found the dirt would get stuck in the valve and the saw would leak gas from the cap. i did hear of a problem with the connecting rod bearings but husky thought it may have been a mix issue. opps, got of the topic. anyway, a 372 with a 20" bar and chain should be just dandy. marty

Wonder why the dealers don't like the 575? They have to learn something new? Just guessing. Talk to the folks that run the saws for a living. I've gone from, what were they?...282's to 371's to the 372's and now 575. The 575 is one good saw. I was a bit concerned about buying a new saw the first year of production. However, I was able to talk with a few fallers that were given the saws while still prototypes and that sold me. I buy new saws at the beginning of each fire season. You see the progression, I've been using Huskys for years. Saws are changing, keep up with the times fella's. The 575 is a keeper. I run nothing but 32" bars.

 

[rahtreelimbs]

Saws are changing, keep up with the times fella's. The 575 is a keeper. I run nothing but 32" bars.

I am glad that someone feels this way but you seem to be in the minority here!!!

Husky........IMO........could have done better than they did with the 575! They have the resources and they had the time.

Having a saw that weighs more than the 372 with only lackluster performance is a big let down!!!


There will be plenty of used 372's and parts for a while for those who don't mind wrenching their own saws!!!

 

[jp hallman]

I am glad that someone feels this way but you seem to be in the minority here!!!

Husky........IMO........could have done better than they did with the 575! They have the resources and they had the time.

Having a saw that weighs more than the 372 with only lackluster performance is a big let down!!!


There will be plenty of used 372's and parts for a while for those who don't mind wrenching their own saws!!!

I still haven't figured out where you folks come up with the "lackluster" performance? Sure it's a pound plus heavier. My 575 sucks me into the log. I still have 372's, and I run em' and I like the 575 better. Emission regs are only going to get tougher. Is mine(575)the only good one out of the lot?

 

[jp hallman]

OK lads, here's the deal. I have two low hour 372's that I'll trade straight across for any 575xp's you don't like. You come check em' out, we'll fall a few trees and then you take the 372's home and I'll keep the po' bastad' 575's.

 

[jp hallman]

What the heck, even have an ol' 056AV Super around here somewhere. Bring them 575's on!

 

[davidwyby]

I'm thinking maybe they're harder to tune and different locations/users may get better results?

 

[rahtreelimbs]

I still haven't figured out where you folks come up with the "lackluster" performance? Sure it's a pound plus heavier. My 575 sucks me into the log. I still have 372's, and I run em' and I like the 575 better. Emission regs are only going to get tougher. Is mine(575)the only good one out of the lot?

Good that you like 'em. But on another note. For those of us that like a modified saw the 575 still ain't no 372!!!

 

[jp hallman]

Good that you like 'em. But on another note. For those of us that like a modified saw the 575 still ain't no 372!!!

Modified?...learn how to modify the 575 then. Make it what you want! I thought you were comparing out of the box saws. I'll spend a grand on an orange pumpkin and make it outcut anything! Get real.

 

[rahtreelimbs]

Modified?...learn how to modify the 575 then. Make it what you want! I thought you were comparing out of the box saws. I'll spend a grand on an orange pumpkin and make it outcut anything! Get real.

Well then the orange pumpkin is you!!!

Get real......... my A$$!!!

I try to say that your opinion is yours and that is good.

Face it the 575 is a PIG!!!

 

[davidwyby]

Take 'er easy fellas...

Saw a saw on ebay Good looking used 372...max is 32" bar i think wonder if it'd be nuff?

 

[pbtree]

Well, alrighty then!

 

[jokers]

Pig hell, it's a fat hog! and they're making me money! Watch your threats or I'll hunt ya' down.

jp, that`s a threat and I don`t recall seeing rahtreelimbs threaten you, so you`ll end up on thin ice. It`s best to refarin from public statements like this even if rah does need his arse kicked.

Now tell me what you like about the 575 over the 372. I just went back through this entire thread, and although I could have missed it, I didn`t see why you like the 575 better.

What types of jobs are you working, who do you work for?

The reason that I`m so curious about your comments is that I own a 575 and I`m usually the one defending them, but I surely don`t feel quite the way you do. I`d like to have a better understanding of the conditions in which you use yours, maybe that will help me understand why you like it better than the 372?

I do remember reading somewhere that you like the smoothness and fuel economy of the 575, how does the power of your`s compare to the 372? I felt that stock they are similar with the 575 having slightly more torque but the 372 takes it on topend in the smaller(≤ 20") wood that we deal with on a regular basis here in the East. I also feel that the rev limited coil on the 575 is set at too low an rpm to take advantage of the port timing of this model. I`ve put a coil from a different saw on mine that will let it run at a bit over 14k and it seems happier.

I`d like to hear more specific comments to support your position. Do you have any pictures of your typical job? Being men, we are very visually oriented.

Have a good one, and Thanks.

Russ

 

[bwalker]

FWIW the local dealer, who services most of the local loggers has had dismal results with the 575. Loggers hate them and there have been reliability issues. Many of the guys have switched over to 2171 and 385's as a result.