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Got a bunch of porting done tonight. Int and EX is mostly done, just need to smooth out now.

Pay no attention to the uppers their not done yet.

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Thanks Jay, will post up some more pics when its all done, still got to make stuff a little smoother.

and there-in lies the part that takes the longest, and the most tedious... trying to get things blended nice, yet not take out 'more' material.


I'm excited to see where it ends up.... I have a saw i'd like to do someday ;)
 
and there-in lies the part that takes the longest, and the most tedious... trying to get things blended nice, yet not take out 'more' material.


I'm excited to see where it ends up.... I have a saw i'd like to do someday ;)

Ya it does. Honestly most of the saws I do I leave it like I have it here, just want to go the extra mile on this one.
 
Degreed the saw too, stock, base gasket in. Not the normal Husky numbers I'm used to.

Ex- 170° duration, 95° ATDC

Int- 150 duration, 74° FTDC

Tran- 122° duration, 119° ATDC

Post machine work numbers.

EX 97.5atdc 165dur

Intake closes 76.5ftdc 153dur

Transfers 121atdc

Blowdown 23.5

My thoughts, ex will stay were it is, just widen.

Intake maybe bring up to 155-156dur close to 80ftdc

Transfer maybe raise up to 119?? little unsure about the transfers still.

that would leave 21.5blowdown

Looks good Will. I would leave the intake where it is for now. You might want to drop the cylinder some more. :cool2:

I am really digging them numbers. Strikingly similar to one of my favorite "big" saws, except of course the 390 has quad transfer ports.

If it were mine, I wouldn't change nothin till I ran it.

I've been trying a lower intake duration than I've used in the past Will. I'm in no way saying that this is the way to go or even that it helps at this point, but my thinking is along these lines....

We talk a lot about intake opening point, but what about the relationship between intake closing and transfer opening? We think about the blowdown time, but never do we mention the amount of time that crankcase pressure is building between intake closing and transfer opening.

I'm seeing a pattern based on the size of the crankcase and this number. As we all have found, some saws "like" more blowdown....some "like" less. I'm thinking that this is because of crankcase volume vs displacement.

The lower the intake and the higher the transfers the less time the pressure builds in the crankcase, so by leaving the intake as is and just raising the transfers.........????

Keep in mind that all this is just me thinking out loud, but I wouldn't lower that intake until I saw how well it pulled a long bar. Sure a high revving saw is a hoot to run, but a saw that has a butt load of torque is a fine thing.

Sorry for the long winded derail.....carry on. :D
 
Randy,

this is always a thought in my mind... what makes the most sense for disp vs. CC volume... I know there are programs out there that help with sizing the crankcase (when modifying it makes sense...) and what changes can be incorporated together...

I wonder how most measure the CC volume... fill the CC with a metered amount of oil?
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more reading is required, I guess..
 
Randy,

this is always a thought in my mind... what makes the most sense for disp vs. CC volume... I know there are programs out there that help with sizing the crankcase (when modifying it makes sense...) and what changes can be incorporated together...

I wonder how most measure the CC volume... fill the CC with a metered amount of oil?
:confused:


more reading is required, I guess..

All I know for sure is this. The more I learn......the more I need to know. :msp_sad:
 
I've been trying a lower intake duration than I've used in the past Will. I'm in no way saying that this is the way to go or even that it helps at this point, but my thinking is along these lines....

We talk a lot about intake opening point, but what about the relationship between intake closing and transfer opening? We think about the blowdown time, but never do we mention the amount of time that crankcase pressure is building between intake closing and transfer opening.

I'm seeing a pattern based on the size of the crankcase and this number. As we all have found, some saws "like" more blowdown....some "like" less. I'm thinking that this is because of crankcase volume vs displacement.

The lower the intake and the higher the transfers the less time the pressure builds in the crankcase, so by leaving the intake as is and just raising the transfers.........????

Keep in mind that all this is just me thinking out loud, but I wouldn't lower that intake until I saw how well it pulled a long bar. Sure a high revving saw is a hoot to run, but a saw that has a butt load of torque is a fine thing.

Sorry for the long winded derail.....carry on. :D

I'm getting what you're puttin down randy. Makes sense.
 
Good thing I always mark conservatively, so I decided to go a little further. Don't worry Dennis I measured.

Oh you are very observant! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha


That's right Willie, I figured you left some tolerance......besides, we'd have to listen to a big crying if you ever traveled to Freeport City!......Hahahahahahaha!
 
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