hey yo i have trained many climbers for utility and commercial, if you have an individual who wants to climb you got to respect that or they will move on. A taut-line hitch and a natural crotch will tell you who is capable of actually climbing KF, Bro if your doing tree work in NYC you better try to make some friends with guys in your industry we are all brothers and sisters of the trees whether 20 yrs 2 yrs or 8mos. ya dig