7/16, 1/2, 9/16, 5/8, 3/4 Chain Dimensions And Identification Thread

[Philbert]

I thought we were just talking presets!

The parts catalogs for just STIHL and Oregon chains are dozens of pages long!

Once people identify the hole sizes and spacing, they can associate other parts with that brand and model of chain.

Need a millennial to figure out some type of wiki-thing. Or just have it date and time coded, so people can download the most current version, and delete older copies.

Philbert

 

[fwgsaw]

Great chance here for example @fwgsaw has Oregon 17L 5/8 chain. This would be a great place to fill in the blanks just as I posted above, but could also add all the dimensions of cutters, drive links, etc...

You mentioned you also had cutters also so if you were to find a Oregon 5/8 square chisel .58 gauge cutter and matched up a preset that worked with it then you would know what presets worked for Oregon 17L. This would only work in my case correct me if I'm off here?

 

[Hdtoolmkr765]

You mentioned you also had cutters also so if you were to find a Oregon 5/8 square chisel .58 gauge cutter and matched up a preset that worked with it then you would know what presets worked for Oregon 17L. This would only work in my case correct me if I'm off here?

1. I do have lots of cutters, but have no idea what model they are, typically it is only the brand marked on the cutter. The model number is typically marked on the drive link.

2. The cutter has nothing to do with the gauge, that is determined by the drive link only as far as I know.

3. Unless the cutter is marked with the chain model number, you'd have no chance of knowing what model it is without all of the dimensions. Especially with Oregon, they have lots of different rivet and bearing flange diameters within each pitch of chain.

 

[Hdtoolmkr765]

I thought we were just talking presets!

The parts catalogs for just STIHL and Oregon chains are dozens of pages long!

Once people identify the hole sizes and spacing, they can associate other parts with that brand and model of chain.

Need a millennial to figure out some type of wiki-thing. Or just have it date and time coded, so people can download the most current version, and delete older copies.

Philbert

Correct, they can figure that out, however, if I have a handful of drive links, where do I put "gauge" in the spreadsheet? Also, without knowing the dimensions I have input into the spread sheet are for a drive link, the rivet diameter columns would be left blank, and would appear that information is missing. Furthermore, I am aware that those Oregon and Stihl chain parts manuals are pages long. This isn't going to be an overnight process. I figure if there can be 100+ page threads for oil, surely we can put a few pages together for something useful?

 

[fwgsaw]

1. I do have lots of cutters, but have no idea what model they are, typically it is only the brand marked on the cutter. The model number is typically marked on the drive link.

2. The cutter has nothing to do with the gauge, that is determined by the drive link only as far as I know.

3. Unless the cutter is marked with the chain model number, you'd have no chance of knowing what model it is without all of the dimensions. Especially with Oregon, they have lots of different rivet and bearing flange diameters within each pitch of chain.

I get what your saying but the cutter is the key. If you have a 5/8 chisel cutter and you find a drive link that's .58 gauge and rivots and preset that all match you will have 17L

 

[Hdtoolmkr765]

I get what your saying but the cutter is the key. If you have a 5/8 chisel cutter and you find a drive link that's .58 gauge and rivots and preset that all match you will have 17L

Incorrect, cause I can find you a preset that will go in a 5/8 cutter that can either be too big or too small to fit in the hole in your drive link. Not all drive links are marked for one, secondly, I may have 100 presets, and zero cutters, and zero drive links for 17L, without the dimensions it will be merely a guess like it has always been. The cutter is not the key, merely one tumbler in the lock...

 

[fwgsaw]

Incorrect, cause I can find you a preset that will go in a 5/8 cutter that can either be too big or too small to fit in the hole in your drive link. Not all drive links are marked for one, secondly, I may have 100 presets, and zero cutters, and zero drive links for 17L, without the dimensions it will be merely a guess like it has always been. The cutter is not the key, merely one tumbler in the lock...

I'm thinking.

 

[Hdtoolmkr765]

To add to that, I may have 5/8 presets made by Atkins, McCulloch, Homelite, Sabre etc that would fit in your Oregon chain, but again, without the dimensions to reference, we will never know. Another example, I have probably 200 1/2" Stihl presets and tie straps, not a single loose cutter or loose drive link, what else will they fit? Will never know without the dimensions to cross reference.

 

[Hdtoolmkr765]

More food for thought.... I probably have 5000 loose rivets. It could be possible for you to grind the rivet heads off of what you have, and only use a new rivet to put chain back together, but at this point we do not know the bearing flange diameter nor the rivet diameter for 17L. We could get that information either by you posting the dimensions or I know @Billg has some Oregon books that may have the info for 17L.

 

[fwgsaw]

More food for thought.... I probably have 5000 loose rivets. It could be possible for you to grind the rivet heads off of what you have, and only use a new rivet to put chain back together, but at this point we do not know the bearing flange diameter nor the rivet diameter for 17L. We could get that information either by you posting the dimensions or I know @Billg has some Oregon books that may have the info for 17L.

I'm searching thru my old Oregon books now to see what I can find.

 

[Hdtoolmkr765]

I'm searching thru my old Oregon books now to see what I can find.

I'd love to find a set of those old Oregon chain books.

 

[fwgsaw]

heres what's listed in the 1957 Oregon specifications for chisel chain.

 

[fwgsaw]

1957 chipper spec's

 

[Hdtoolmkr765]

View attachment 590942heres what's listed in the 1957 Oregon specifications for chisel chain.

Yep, doesn't give us the information we need.

 

[fwgsaw]

and the rest they offered in 57

 

[fwgsaw]

Yep, doesn't give us the information we need.

I'm still looking. Just figured people could see all the different chains from Oregon in 57

 

[Hdtoolmkr765]

I'm still looking. Just figured people could see all the different chains from Oregon in 57

Is there a section that tells you the rivet dimensions?

 

[fwgsaw]

Is there a section that tells you the rivet dimensions?

Unfortunately no or at least in the books I have.

 

[fwgsaw]

 

[fwgsaw]

It says see your dealer or write the factory for complete chain data. Makes a guy wonder if Oregon would still have all this information?