7/16th line and milking

[Tree Pig]

I just recently started using a 7/16th line and have noticed a bit of milking that I havent seen on any of the 1/2" line Ive used. So whats the worse line anyone has seen for milking? Is it more common in 7/16th or 1/2"?

 

[fishercat]

i have been using Lava as you know.

it seems to milk a lot even though it is not supposed to.all this new fangled crap is over rated.

i think i am going back to the Arbormaster and a Blake's hitch.

 

[canopyboy]

Well, I think 7/16 are all pretty much double braid or kernmantle, which of course have the potential to milk where 16 strand or 12 strand (or even 3 strand :biggrinbounce2: ) won't. If you look in Sherrill's rope comparison chart in the front of their catalog, they note which do and don't milk. Tachyon hasn't milked at all for me, and neither has velocity. Others have though. You just cut the cover off as it milks past the core and rewhip. After awhile the milking stops. Personally, I try to avoid the types that have the propensity to milk if I can.

 

[Tree Pig]

Well, I think 7/16 are all pretty much double braid or kernmantle, which of course have the potential to milk where 16 strand or 12 strand (or even 3 strand :biggrinbounce2: ) won't. If you look in Sherrill's rope comparison chart in the front of their catalog, they note which do and don't milk. Tachyon hasn't milked at all for me, and neither has velocity. Others have though. You just cut the cover off as it milks past the core and rewhip. After awhile the milking stops. Personally, I try to avoid the types that have the propensity to milk.

Thanks for the reply, I know how to repair milking but I am want to avoid the extreme milking ones in the future. I was just curious what others have experienced. The line I am using really wasnt expected to milk but it has, not real bad and I think its stopped. Sherrill lists most the double braids and Kerm as milking but as you pointed out your Velocity hasnt showed any and its suppose to milk, where Fishercats lava says it doesnt milk but his has.

 

[voxac30dude]

my line milked alot in the first 3 months of use. i use 24 strand double braid XTC blaze.

 

[treeslayer]

most lines milk when choked wrong.

 

[voxac30dude]

HAHAHAHA. choking till it milks!:biggrinbounce2:

 

[ddhlakebound]

Tachyon hasn't milked at all for me,

+1
I've got two different lava climb lines, and neither of them have milked a bit. Not sure, but I think they were off different rolls.

Forestry Pro was the first climb line I bought, and it milked badly for a month or two. After that it was fine. I liked it pretty well, especially the cost (like arbor plex), other than the milking.

 

[Nailsbeats]

I can second the no milking on the Tachyon. I've seen 5 of them and no milking yet, not to say it can't happen, cause frankly I think it should. Must not be heavy enough.

 

[canopyboy]

HAHAHAHA. choking till it milks!:biggrinbounce2:

Nice.

 

[emr]

The worst line that I ever had with regards to milking was Poison Ivy. I am climbing on Fly right now and I couldn't even milk 2-3 inches off of it.

 

[371groundie]

can an ignorant groundman ask what milking is?

 

[Nailsbeats]

can an ignorant groundman ask what milking is?

Yes. It's when the jacket of your line elongates past the core. It "milks" off the end and needs to be cut off. This happens after using a line for a while and running it through it's paces, running through crotches, harware, friction hitches, etc.

 

[treemandan]

it seems to milk a lot even though it is not supposed to.all this new fangled crap is over rated.

i think i am going back to the Arbormaster and a Blake's hitch.

Why did you leave?

 

[Tree Pig]

can an ignorant groundman ask what milking is?

Kinda like when a condom is too long and slips off the end a couple inches... At least thats how fishercat explained it to me.

 

[emr]

I dont know who fishercat is but that made me laugh out loud.

 

[371groundie]

gotcha, thanks guys.

 

[Tree Pig]

I dont know who fishercat is but that made me laugh out loud.

Dont worry I am sure he will be chiming in with revenge some time tonight.
:biggrinbounce2:

 

[lego1970]

Several years back we were useing a 1/2 line that was kernmantle contruction and there was a recall on it so the boss took them all away. However all the 1/2 I've used before and since then were not kernmantle. I've noticed on my 7/16" rapelling lines that they milk quite a bit if I use carabiners as a rapelling device. It will twist them up real bad and milk it as you slide down. I can't answer your question but it seems to me that whenever the line starts to coil up or gets a lot of bends in it as it goes thru some type of friction device, then it milks pretty good, so maybe try to make sure your line is not all twisted up when going down. If you don't already, use a rope bag instead of coiling it up and hanging it on a hook when your putting it away? Maybe that might help? Don't really know.

 

[Tree Pig]

Several years back we were useing a 1/2 line that was kernmantle contruction and there was a recall on it so the boss took them all away. However all the 1/2 I've used before and since then were not kernmantle. I've noticed on my 7/16" rapelling lines that they milk quite a bit if I use carabiners as a rapelling device. It will twist them up real bad and milk it as you slide down. I can't answer your question but it seems to me that whenever the line starts to coil up or gets a lot of bends in it as it goes thru some type of friction device, then it milks pretty good, so maybe try to make sure your line is not all twisted up when going down. If you don't already, use a rope bag instead of coiling it up and hanging it on a hook when your putting it away? Maybe that might help? Don't really know.

Yeah it all helps, I do use a rope bag normally and now that you say that I dont see as much flaking it in the bag as opposed to coiling... hmmmm