8 months and 1.5 MBF Timber Cut

[Gypo Logger]

WOW! Nice 385 john! Are you trying to make me bite the bullet on mine? Those pics are really inticing. I REALLY want one, and those pics are making me want one more! Nice pics john, keep them comming!

I think if I got 150,000 ft. out of a saw it wouldn't owe me anything, but this includes bucking to merchantable lengths. Just like a 100 yr old tree, the longer a saw is around the more chance it will see some bad weather where the saw can do battle with a sidewinder and lose.
John

 

[Gypo Logger]

John,
there's an old thread on porting the 385's where you and the simonizer discuss where to move the ports to, are those numbers what you currently use on all of your saws???? do you leave the ignition timing alone and just mod the muffler and adjust the carb as described????

Curious minds want to know!!!!!

River Rat, I'm not at liberty to give the exact figures, because I got them from Ken Dunn, however I did divulge 372 figures from Dennis Cahoon and KD with their approval, those being conservative wouldn't be going to far at all with the 385. I can tell you though that the 385 and the 372 do not respond favourably to advancing the timing.
John

 

[klickitatsacket]

You're probably right about the weight, but the 385 just seems to suit me better than the 066, so I guess I just assumed it was lighter by virtue of that.
Just speaking up for Stihl for a moment, the resale of a used Stihl is generaly higher than the resale of a used Husky. Huskies are a one man saw, while Stihl I believe will endure incredible abuse. I mean look at the 038 and the 028 not to mention the 090.. Those 044's have gotta be the best all around saw ever made after all the cards have been dealt.
John

You are spot on here John. The only reason I even like the 385xp modified is because a customer requested that I do his and it turned out so well that I fell in love with it.
I have never been a logger. I grew up cutting cedar shake bolts (by the cord) and I fell pulp wood for a while (by the ton) so I am not sure the letter diffinition but I was trying to say 1.5 Million Board feet of timber.

 

[Timberhauler]

I'm not sure how many bd.ft. of wood my 385's have been through..But they are a little over three years old,and have been run nearly every day of their lives,and you just can't seem to kill em'...One of them runs like it is starting to need a new top end,the other will butt heads with my 395's all day long..I will keep buying them as long as Husky keeps putting them out.

 

[Gypo Logger]

You are spot on here John. The only reason I even like the 385xp modified is because a customer requested that I do his and it turned out so well that I fell in love with it.
I have never been a logger. I grew up cutting cedar shake bolts (by the cord) and I fell pulp wood for a while (by the ton) so I am not sure the letter diffinition but I was trying to say 1.5 Million Board feet of timber.

Dean, I don't feel that 1.5 would be an exageration at all. A good stem in the Great Lakes region is about 300bf, so 1.5MFB is about 5000 trees of that size. A mere pitance to a dude I know a couple of hours north of me.
John

 

[sILlogger]

in a good day i can usually cut upwards of 50 trees. depending on the timber this is often around 20000 bft, including bucking. i ran a 395 husky that had slayed over 3 million board ft. and is still running. About three weeks ago(the last time i got to work-weather) i prolly cut around 150,000bft in 5 days with my 066=8.5 gal of pre-mix, 1 chain). with good maintenance they sure can last a long time.

Gypo that appears to be some nice hard "sugar" maple, atleast that is what we call it here, whats the second pic, swamp white oak????

 

[aggiewoodbutchr]

Here is a look at a Washington Pro Saws stage II conversion after 1.5 MBF of Timer having been cut with it. This Particular saw is a Husqvarna 385XP. It was built for a Timber comapany in New York. Last week the customer called me up to tell me that the saw would not run on it's side. I had him send me the saw because it had a vacume leak.

The following repairs will be done:
New rings
Tighten the intake block (vacume leak)
Clean all carbon and wash saw
New fuel filter

Charge to the customer: $10 for rings, $6 for filter and return shipping.
IF this had been a warrenty issue then we would have taken care of everything including shipping both ways.

It looks like modifieds hold up quite well. BTW the customer loved this saw so much that he ordered another one.

Good job!

 

[Madsaw]

You're probably right about the weight, but the 385 just seems to suit me better than the 066, so I guess I just assumed it was lighter by virtue of that.
Just speaking up for Stihl for a moment, the resale of a used Stihl is generaly higher than the resale of a used Husky. Huskies are a one man saw, while Stihl I believe will endure incredible abuse. I mean look at the 038 and the 028 not to mention the 090.. Those 044's have gotta be the best all around saw ever made after all the cards have been dealt.
John

I got to agree with John here. I have ran a couple of 066 for firewood. To me they seemed clumbersome. But, I just love the feel and balance the 385 has with a 32 on it. Mine is still coming around from new yet. Best investment I made since switching to burning wood. From what I save in LP I can buy a new 385 or even a 3120 on a real bad winter each year. Thats why the 5100s joined in this winter.
Also locally the resale of any used saw is low compared to online. Huskys are harder to find then stihls just due to know one wanting to sell them.
Bob

 

[Husky137]

Time for todays Latin forestry lesson. I knew what Dean was getting at with the title of his post but technically speaking 1.5MBF is only 1500 Board Feet, the "M" standing for one thousand derived from the Latin mille. The abbreviation for one million board feet is MMBF or a thousand thousands. Now that I have bored you all to tears.....

 

[klickitatsacket]

Time for todays Latin forestry lesson. I knew what Dean was getting at with the title of his post but technically speaking 1.5MBF is only 1500 Board Feet, the "M" standing for one thousand derived from the Latin mille. The abbreviation for one million board feet is MMBF or a thousand thousands. Now that I have bored you all to tears.....

not bored to learn at all. Thanks.

 

[Gypo Logger]

Time for todays Latin forestry lesson. I knew what Dean was getting at with the title of his post but technically speaking 1.5MBF is only 1500 Board Feet, the "M" standing for one thousand derived from the Latin mille. The abbreviation for one million board feet is MMBF or a thousand thousands. Now that I have bored you all to tears.....

Thanks for clearing that up Husky 137, I new what Dean meant when I first read his post, but the typo when right over my head. It's like MB- a thousand mega bits.
Sillogger, all the pics were sugar maple, I haven't cut any SWO in sometime. It's hard for the buyers to tell if it's bur oak, mossycup or whiteoak, plus prices are really low on Oak. Ash is low, Maple is low, what can we cut next? Poplar, Alder, Bulgarian Bugwood?
John

 

[klickitatsacket]

what's market like for you guys out there on Alder? Here is has been running consistantly higher than our doug fir. Ranks right up htere with cedar for the last several years.

 

[aggiewoodbutchr]

Thanks for clearing that up Husky 137, I new what Dean meant when I first read his post, but the typo when right over my head. It's like MB- a thousand mega bits.
Sillogger, all the pics were sugar maple, I haven't cut any SWO in sometime. It's hard for the buyers to tell if it's bur oak, mossycup or whiteoak, plus prices are really low on Oak. Ash is low, Maple is low, what can we cut next? Poplar, Alder, Bulgarian Bugwood?
John

OOOOO!!! Scary sharp!

 

[Gypo Logger]

I've seen pure stands of Alder on Van Isle in 1981 and it was just viewed as a weedtree then. It's a nice tree, grows fast and not always straight, but straight enough to get sawlogs and peelers from. It's dangerous to fall when big, because it dances and slides all over the place, so you want to be in the clear away from the stump. The wood seems to be much like Birch, but harder. If I could develope an export market for it, I'd be out there in a heartbeat, but alas, lumbering is big business in the West and there's not much room for a small operator like me.
John

 

[Gypo Logger]

I got to agree with John here. I have ran a couple of 066 for firewood. To me they seemed clumbersome. But, I just love the feel and balance the 385 has with a 32 on it. Mine is still coming around from new yet. Best investment I made since switching to burning wood. From what I save in LP I can buy a new 385 or even a 3120 on a real bad winter each year. Thats why the 5100s joined in this winter.
Also locally the resale of any used saw is low compared to online. Huskys are harder to find then stihls just due to know one wanting to sell them.
Bob

Hi Madsaw, happy to hear you're having fun with your 385. Did you make any changes over stock? It would be interesting to find out if 7P is faster than 8P with the longer bar. Surely 7 tooth would see a few less chain throws. I think I used a 28" once when felling some big pine, but never managed to cut 20 28"er's in one day in four feet of snow like I was supposed to. Oh well, I guess I'm just a cull.
John

 

[sILlogger]

Thanks for clearing that up Husky 137, I new what Dean meant when I first read his post, but the typo when right over my head. It's like MB- a thousand mega bits.
Sillogger, all the pics were sugar maple, I haven't cut any SWO in sometime. It's hard for the buyers to tell if it's bur oak, mossycup or whiteoak, plus prices are really low on Oak. Ash is low, Maple is low, what can we cut next? Poplar, Alder, Bulgarian Bugwood?
John

i suppose this is the square chisel chain everyone talks about, round chisel si the most common around here and i have never seen or ran anything different. how does it work in hardwood??

 

[B_Turner]

i suppose this is the square chisel chain everyone talks about, round chisel si the most common around here and i have never seen or ran anything different. how does it work in hardwood??

I confess I don't know what the picture is showing.

In terms of square ground chisel, which is what I run 99 percent of the time, folks always hear how much better it is in soft woods like fir.

Whereas that is true, in hardwoods (live trees, that is) the different is even more noticeable between round and square because the square is simply sharper. Black locust is a good example. Tough and hard, but the sharper chain cuts the fibers quicker and easier. Sharpenings don't last quite as long, but I usually get two tanks before I swap out.

The mistake I see most often with square ground is folks dont' swap it out as soon as it gets dull and the point gets hammered back pretty quick. Won't cut at all and takes longer to grind. If swapped out normally, I find square actually quicker to grind than round (both on Silveys).

I'm a broken record here, but now when I have to run round chisel or worse yet semi chisel I don't enjoy it. Cuts too slow and with too much effort as compared to scary sharp square. If Silvey loaned out samples of fresh ground square, they would start a rebirth of interest in square grinders.

Makes more different in performance than a typical mod, in my opinion. And you can always add a mod to boot.

 

[klickitatsacket]

most of the Alder here is going for export. We see prices around $800 - $1100 per MBF (I got it right this time ) Most of it is heading to Asia for the furniture markets. They call it the great imitator becasue they can make it look like almost any wood they want by the way it is cut and stained.

 

[Madsaw]

John,
My 385 is still pure stock. Soon I will set up a block of oak about 30 inch class and have at it. Once with a 8 then once with a 7. I have been running full house on it and it seems to cut fine. It does not want to load up with chips or nothing like that. I run a 20 most of the time. I ran the 32 just enough to dull the chain once. I would like to find a another muffler to mod for it then maybe down the road do the ports.
Bob

 

[stihl 440]

20"

John,
My 385 is still pure stock. Soon I will set up a block of oak about 30 inch class and have at it. Once with a 8 then once with a 7. I have been running full house on it and it seems to cut fine. It does not want to load up with chips or nothing like that. I run a 20 most of the time. I ran the 32 just enough to dull the chain once. I would like to find a another muffler to mod for it then maybe down the road do the ports.
Bob

How is your 385 with a 20"? I'm going to get a 20" and 24" for my 385 when I get it (which will be soon). How does it balance with a 20? I want to run my 385 with the 20 most of the time so I don't have to get different length chains. I can just run the ones for my 440 and 460 on it. I have over $600.00 in chains right now and I dont want to have to switch. Because that will be a pain in the a:censored:, and a lot of money. :rockn: