Let us know how this turns out. There's supposed to be an oak quarantine over here too but since so much of it burned last year they're not paying much attention to it.
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Let us know how this turns out. There's supposed to be an oak quarantine over here too but since so much of it burned last year they're not paying much attention to it.
Last night I found out that redwood is thought "to carry" the fungus that causes SOD. I don't know if that means the bark or the wood. I was told that if a redwood is near a SOD oak it won't send up stump sprouts either. This is all conjecture right now. I need to see it in writing! I should have a meeting to discuss our strategy early next week.
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Burvol
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Could you explain how SODS works?
Google Sudden Oak Disease
First hit.
Synopsis:
Sudden Oak Death is a recently recognized disease that is killing oaks and other plant species in the western U.S. First noticed in 1995, the disease has been confirmed in the coastal areas north and south of San Francisco, and in a relatively remote location in southwestern Oregon. The pathogen responsible for the disease, a fungus-like organism called Phytophthora ramorum, is also found in Germany and Denmark, where it is causing a recently identified disease on Rhododendron and Viburnum.
Although in the U.S. the disease has been found only in California and Oregon, it is of great concern to land managers in the Eastern U.S. as well, because at least two eastern oak species, northern pin oak (Quercus palustris) and northern red oak (Quercus rubra), are highly susceptible to the disease when inoculated with the pathogen. Forest land managers nationwide should be aware of the symptoms of sudden oak death, and should contact a pest management specialist if they suspect that the disease is present in a new location.
http://www.google.com/search?q=sudd...ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYA_en
Thanks for the research. USDA claims we have it in our area but they can't seem to come up with an actual example. They're also not sure exactly what the early symptoms are. They don't seem to be able to tell us the difference between normal tree death and SODS, either.
But they're working on it. They keep telling us that.
smokechase II
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This is weally serious
"Rhododendron..................
Although in the U.S. the disease has been found only in California and Oregon,"
There are several species affected and Oregon stands to loose too. In short, picture the Mt Hood area without any Rhodies.
The professionals regard California as a lost cause.
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My understanding is when they find it there is no Guantanamo.
Straight to removal and burning of everything.
This stuff is prophesized to clean house eventually. We have no method of stopping it currently so we delay the spread until it can be figured out.
"Rhododendron..................
Although in the U.S. the disease has been found only in California and Oregon,"
There are several species affected and Oregon stands to loose too. In short, picture the Mt Hood area without any Rhodies.
The professionals regard California as a lost cause.
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My understanding is when they find it there is no Guantanamo.
Straight to removal and burning of everything.
This stuff is prophesized to clean house eventually. We have no method of stopping it currently so we delay the spread until it can be figured out.
Smokechase you may be right about burning. Some professionals believe the lack of potassium in the soil due to the complete supression of wildfire is weakening certain species of trees. I have no idea or opinion about that, but the hippeis-in-charge of the cities and counties down here won't allow any burning. The feds will allow it and even encourage burning but they don't like to fight the locals.
No burning for range/forest improvement or to reduce fuel load or for disposal.
In fact we pretty muchly have a no odor county. Libraries are posted with signs not allowing anyone in who is wearing perfume. Bakeries are not allowed emited the smell of baked bread. Smoking is not allowed in your car in traffic.
Anyway, a little off topic there, the job I am bidding will have maybe one hundred tons of wood waste that will just e chipped onto the ground and left there. Muy stupido!
No burning for range/forest improvement or to reduce fuel load or for disposal.
In fact we pretty muchly have a no odor county. Libraries are posted with signs not allowing anyone in who is wearing perfume. Bakeries are not allowed emited the smell of baked bread. Smoking is not allowed in your car in traffic.
Anyway, a little off topic there, the job I am bidding will have maybe one hundred tons of wood waste that will just e chipped onto the ground and left there. Muy stupido!
No smell of fresh baked bread from the bakeries ???!!! Man, that is just WRONG.
Wasting all that fine redwood isn't real great, either.
Frank Boyer
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You can't smoke in a car if there are children in it. Los Gatos has the smells of coffee roasting, bread baking, and meat being grilled.
southsoundtree
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Perhaps because pathogens don't know about property lines.
I wonder what the concern is with the redwood. Please inform us as you find out.
Thanks.
Good Site
Learning as we go.
http://www.suddenoakdeath.org/html/maps___photos.html
Clicked on map.........zoomed out to show the whole US, and seems to be a big problem out in California.
Sorry to hear that. In the Midwest we have a whole sort of attacks on trees going on with Gypsy Moth, EBA, etc....
Learning as we go.
http://www.suddenoakdeath.org/html/maps___photos.html
Clicked on map.........zoomed out to show the whole US, and seems to be a big problem out in California.
Sorry to hear that. In the Midwest we have a whole sort of attacks on trees going on with Gypsy Moth, EBA, etc....
Frank Boyer
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I heard a new idea about SOD today. A study found that if Bay/laurel trees were around that the tan oaks were more likely to become infected. I need to walk the canyon by my house and check it out.
smokechase II
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2Dogs You can't be serious
The bread thing.
You're joking, right?
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Why the redwood chipping?
Is that because of the SOD possibility?
That doesn't make sense.
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I'm just amazed at all the greenies nodding their heads in unison with regard to fires role in nature, then two years after the last big fire locally they are ready to shut down all prescribed burning.
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With respect to soil chemistry. I don't have any answers there either but I am sure that the removal of fire from areas that saw re-occurring low intensity underburns every 5 - 10 years are having their soils changed with our management.
Probably mostly for the negative.
The bread thing.
You're joking, right?
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Why the redwood chipping?
Is that because of the SOD possibility?
That doesn't make sense.
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I'm just amazed at all the greenies nodding their heads in unison with regard to fires role in nature, then two years after the last big fire locally they are ready to shut down all prescribed burning.
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With respect to soil chemistry. I don't have any answers there either but I am sure that the removal of fire from areas that saw re-occurring low intensity underburns every 5 - 10 years are having their soils changed with our management.
Probably mostly for the negative.
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I can understand the bread thing just a little. I'm trying to lose some weight and the restaurant next door is torture at times. That nice grease smell is usually wafting over my yard. Mmmmmm and I know their fries are the best.
Back to SOD. I did read that in the patch in Southern Oregon, a crew was brought in, the felled all the trees and brush and then burned. I don't know what the results were. Sounds like it doesn't actually kill the Redwood.
Back to SOD. I did read that in the patch in Southern Oregon, a crew was brought in, the felled all the trees and brush and then burned. I don't know what the results were. Sounds like it doesn't actually kill the Redwood.
Frank Boyer
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In Los Gatos you can smell coffee roasting, bread cooking, and meat on the grill. Smoking with a child in the car is illegal in CA.
