any what the biggest log size a bc1500 can take?

[teamtree]

yes, i have a buddy who pays me for every load of wood I bring him, regardless of size and type plus if there are rakings, chips or stump grindings mixed in....he does not care....it is a great situation....he takes everything and is happy to get it....

he has a large wood boiler hat heats his ag buildings

if you put a loader into the situation it is even easier to avoid the chipper

again....every situation is different but I was talking about the specific case of the bc1500

and i have watched my guys closely and timed them time and time again in many scenarios where it is quicker to chuck the stuff on back of the truck instead of chipping....

anyone who works with the bc1500 knows it is not so quick and easy to throw say a 4' slug about 10" diameter into the machine....i have watched guys try three and four times to chip a piece like that when it would have been easier to chuck it on back....but hey...lets argue about it.....because far be it for someone to be right on this site

 

[treevet]

Can't we all just get along? (Rodney)

 

[teamtree]

I can get along but it seems you have to defend you posts around here....and explain in great detail the scenario in which you speak...let's move on



typing 'good point' is not an option....bashing is so much easier

anyway...treevet have you recovered from the September hurricane that hit the midwest (wind storm)? I am about 2 hours west of Cincy and we got hit really hard and I will be swamped all winter.

 

[treevet]

I can get along but it seems you have to defend you posts around here....and explain in great detail the scenario in which you speak...let's move on



typing 'good point' is not an option....bashing is so much easier

anyway...treevet have you recovered from the September hurricane that hit the midwest (wind storm)? I am about 2 hours west of Cincy and we got hit really hard and I will be swamped all winter.

We got slammed and we're lovin it. 2 solid weeks of craning trees off houses and we too should be covered at least thru winter.

2 hours west? You must west of Indy teamtree?

 

[juststumps]

here is a scenario, 15 - 10" dia x 8' white oak logs with no brush and you have a bc1500 with new knives, regardless of who you are and where you are from you could load those logs faster than you could chip them...a basic time study will tell you this...

put a larger chipper into the scheme and maybe things are different...

i will lay money on this scenario...assuming you do not care about getting the most chips and the least amount of blocks.

if i carry with say the help of another groundie one of those logs to the chipper you are going to exert the same amount of effort or slightly more to throw that in a dump trailer.

1 you save the time that the the bc1500 chipper will take to run it through with the auto feed system.....think about it...it takes a second to reset and you may take say 6" of that log at each interval so that is at least 6 seconds of resetting.....

2 in addition to the time you save by throwing it on trailer...you extend the life of your chipper and the time before you need to replace your knives.

again, assuming you don't care about chips vs. blocks you just need to remove the tree....and you don't care about the slight increase in effort


but hey...put your money where your mouth is...bring $1000 to Southern Indiana and we will have it out....

so Husky....it is about efficiencies and common sense and if you used any and had the facts to back it up....you would learn that sometimes people actually use facts to back up a post and not just some opinion....

I have a bc1500 and it will take a 15" piece.....

however...I would not recommend running 15" oak or sugar maple or any other hardwood.

it will consistently run 15" pine, poplar, soft maple, etc.

two things to look at....

when dealing with larger diameter....you can waste time trying to get the thing into the chipper as well as it will take twice as long to chip it as it would to load it on the truck by hand. A grapple or winch helps this out but if you try to take too much (esp brushy stuff) you will lose efficiency in the long run.

also...if you run the bigger stuff on a regular basis....you will put more money into maintaining your chipper....

while my chipper will take it...i try to stay under 10" and the chipper runs smoother and the knives last longer.

???? why buy a 15" chipper, if your not going to use it ??????

if feeding large wood into my large chipper is going to cost me money maintaining it... how much money would i save if i bought a 12" chipper, instead of a 15" chipper ?????? would the maitinence costs offset the price difference ???? if i'm only chipping 8-10" logs????

and i don't know how you can load logs faster into a truck or trailer , when i can winch a whole tree up to the size of the chipper.... POOF GONE!!!! JMHO

 

[teamtree]

We got slammed and we're lovin it. 2 solid weeks of craning trees off houses and we too should be covered at least thru winter.

2 hours west? You must west of Indy teamtree?

west of Louisville...off interstate 64

 

[teamtree]

???? why buy a 15" chipper, if your not going to use it ??????

if feeding large wood into my large chipper is going to cost me money maintaining it... how much money would i save if i bought a 12" chipper, instead of a 15" chipper ?????? would the maitinence costs offset the price difference ???? if i'm only chipping 8-10" logs????

and i don't know how you can load logs faster into a truck or trailer , when i can winch a whole tree up to the size of the chipper.... POOF GONE!!!! JMHO

don't get me wrong...i max out my chipper....i just made the comment based up simple time studies....that is is quicker to load a certain type of wood as it is to chip it....from there it turned into....'omg'...'my big chipper will chip a redwood' etc. etc.

i said something I backed it up and then I offered to put my money where my mouth is and no one will step up and tell me I am wrong...truth is truth and

opinions are opinions....useless...my opinion included...i stated a fact and some people like to change the scenario to make their opinion right....

i did not say anyone is wrong becuase they are using different scenarios...i am just saying what i said is right and i like to argue

the thread was started by a guy who wanted info on a bc1500

well there is a big difference between a white oak load and pine....

if you have a bigger chipper then use it....it is nice

well if it makes no difference as to chips vs. wood and it takes you roughly the same time to load as to chip then that means less wood through the chipper so then i can can chip more limbs before changing knives...

I am not saying anything other than what my actual experience is with my bc1500 and some basic time studies that I have done...

it is not about chipping vs. not chipping....

the fact is it takes more time to chip a 8' log with 10" diameter than it takes to have two guys throw it into the chipper.

the fact is it takes less time for 2 guys to pick up and carry that log to the truck/trailer than it takes to hook a winch to it and winch it over

bring a stop watch and a pile of cash and come on over and I will bet you on everything that I have said....about the bc1500

you all make very good points but facts are facts...so your opinions mean little to this discussion

 

[treevet]

west of Louisville...off interstate 64

Cool,...how do you like that Altec? Is it over center. I am due to upgrade one of my pickers.

I think the biggest consideration operating at capacity is getting the damn chute jammed. I just to HATE to throw a monkey :monkey: wrench into the speed and choreography of a job.

 

[teamtree]

The truck is a work horse for my small company.

It is overcenter and compared to my 57' hi ranger it works a larger area and being able to park 30' from the tree and have some room to work is really nice. I love it and i think it is worth the price to have a new one....i would get the elevator if I had it to do over.

I love my 15" machine and it is a real work horse. I try to baby it when on big hardwoods but with pine and other soft woods it gets maxed out...

the only time i have problems with chute jamming is when blades get dull and you have small stringy stuff, liked silver maples that have been topped...you probably don't see that in Cincy....lol

 

[treevet]

What you are chipping is def a consideration. My biggest worry with the BC 2000 I just got is running a damn lag bolt that is buried or some other metal in the lower trunk that was once on the outside. We're pretty careful.

Yesterday we craned a tree into a wide open yard. The dingo picked up a piece that was an ave of probably 15"dia and was about 25 feet long. I was up in the air as I watched that piece float across the lawn, got turned sideways and into the chipper it disappeared with out even a burp. Gotta love it.

 

[teamtree]

well, if you are using a crane...a chipper larger than the bc1500 is probably a must.

I use my jd4410 with forks and do the same thing....

I have realized that in this business there is no way someone will have the right set up for every situation....even the largest companies.....and that is why it is nice to talk with others to see what they are doing and why....or why not.

Would love to come shadow you sometime to see how you do things....

 

[treevet]

well, if you are using a crane...a chipper larger than the bc1500 is probably a must.

I use my jd4410 with forks and do the same thing....

I have realized that in this business there is no way someone will have the right set up for every situation....even the largest companies.....and that is why it is nice to talk with others to see what they are doing and why....or why not.

Would love to come shadow you sometime to see how you do things....

If you're up this way give me a ring, I am in the book Shaw Tree, northern suburbs.

We might ask you to grab a saw so be ready.

 

[Husky137]

Accountant turned Arborist. Nuff said i guess.

I like to base my "common sense" on real world experience and not "time trials".

Based on your apparent difficulties to chip 10" wood, I would say that you have some issues with the chipper or the crew.

 

[senechal]

Prioritizing chipper knives over bodies seems like a bit of a rusty formula. Extra sawing extra mess and spent labour. But I understand there is the illusion of efficiency.

 

[TDunk]

I know i'm jumping in this pretty late. But in spring i was going to look for a used 12" chipper to add to my chuck and duck. Most i've been looking at have been about 76 hp, 80 hp and 100 hp diesels. So basicly they will only chip probably 8" hard wood and 10" soft wood ? I'm just curious because i don't want to go blow 10K on a chipper that's not going to be able to chip much bigger than my other one.

 

[teamtree]

Husky...i could care less about your common sense....and yes who cares what I did before this...i did not say anything about you mopping up the local glory holes....

senechal...you need to get with the program...no illusion of efficiency...I did not say I was going to saw the log up...i just throw it on the truck...oh...you can't left 300 pounds....i see

again...you are taking this thread so far out of proportion it is not even funny...

I commented specifically on the BC1500 and told him what it's real world capabilities are....

after that it was free for all on how so many people would rather chip than throw would on back of the truck...

well hell yeah...that is the easiest thing to do....but that is not the point...i was talking about common sense when if it is quicker to do something I usually do it that way...as I don't mind the extra effort

We may not have a crane or be the most efficient at climbing but I will put myself and my two full-time guys up against anyone on the ground

nuff said....

no...a little more...what you are saying has merit but it is irrelevant to the conversation....so get off my ass and post something that is relevant to the conversation...other wise you are spewing #### from you pie hole.

 

[senechal]

Relevant to conversation:
Common sense -> not all that common.

 

[teamtree]

It seems you speak from experience.

I suppose you can't support your argument so you result to bad mouthing.

Come work with me....I will pay you and if at the end of the day or week...if you think I have no common sense...then I will pay you double your going rate....

I don't mind putting my money where my mouth is and then back it up....I will see how well you do on my crew...and you better eat your wheaties...my guys will eat you up

I did not result in name calling....I stuck to the thread topic and here we are arguing and namecalling like some little girls on the play ground...

If you want to debate, then tell us your opinion on the BC1500 and why you feel that way or what facts you have to support

Call me a liar or call me useless or dumb or whatever makes you feel good...but please when you get called out either back it up or shut the #### up...you don't know me and you definitely don't put things in perspective

 

[teamtree]

Accountant turned Arborist. Nuff said i guess.

I like to base my "common sense" on real world experience and not "time trials".

Based on your apparent difficulties to chip 10" wood, I would say that you have some issues with the chipper or the crew.

I apologize for my education...I am sure there are no other tree guys with previous experience other than tree work. Does the fact that I know the numbers of the game intimidate you...why is this a big deal? Are you happy with the level of professionalism in our industry? Do you like to see the guys with no safety procedures and insurance and education out there making us look bad...if so, fine....

did you read any of my posts....I never said I have a problem chipping the 10"...common sense tells me if I can load logs in 10 minutes as opposed to taking 15 minutes to chip them....then I would do the 10 min deal and save on my knives...it is pretty straightforward what is the big deal

anyone with a bc1500 would tell you that chipping 15" pine is like chipping 7" or 8" white oak....I would say this is common knowledge...and yes...if you go to a 20" chipper there probably is no difference

in my case, i don't care about having logs with the chips as it goes to the same place 90% of the time...I am sure many of you are thinking narrowly about just having pure chips and it being easier to get rid of the stuff...I limited the scope of my comments to all things being equal and chips vs. blocks did not matter...

but hey....let's argue over this all night

 

[Husky137]

I'm sure you have a pie chart, or a graph or maybe even a spread sheet. I can make those say anything I want them to as well.
Keep arguing, you are starting to defeat your own argument by admitting that chipping is actually faster than loading. Saving wear on the knives is just getting silly now. The logs will be the cleanest wood you chip and much less likely to drag other debris in like brush can. If you really want to save money, why have a chipper at all? Oh, because you saw that all the real tree guys have them. If your method is that much better, hell I would just start stacking the whole tree in the fleet of trucks you have and dump everything as is. You could save on chipper fuel and maintainence, excise taxes, insurance and registration and a host of other miscellaneous expenses. You could charge your dumping location for even more loads of wood as well. Seems like common sense to me.

I wasn't taking a shot at your education. I'm a firm believer in higher education. You are the one that somehow felt the need to qualify yourself as "accountant, now arborist". I'm a logger and a land clearer and proud of it. Previous careers or level of education don't need to come into the equation.