anyone see the cover of this months TCIA mag?

[capetrees]

Oh, but it did work didn't it. And the guy is a pro too. And I'l bet he has a better handle on what he's doing then you or I do.

All the armchair experts. :chatter:

 

[capetrees]

And don't forget;

no chaps
don't see and hearing protection
no face shield
no gloves

What a HACK!!!

 

[oldirty]

And I'l bet he has a better handle on what he's doing then you or I do.

:

i can guarandamntee that he does not have a better handle on the situation with a cut like that.

guarantee it man.

there is a reason i talk so much ****. i know what i am doing.


you get that shine off your saddle yet bub?

 

[capetrees]

You know what you're DOING or you know what you sitting at home on a computer TALKING about.

Big big difference.

 

[capetrees]

And no, the shine is still on the saddle. Don't have much need for it up in the tree when I KNOW what I'm doing.

 

[oldirty]

You know what you're DOING or you know what you sitting at home on a computer TALKING about.

Big big difference.

raining on a sunday afternoon hanging with my dog.


do me a favor. call arborcare tree service. woburn mass. ask for the owner or the general foreman. my name is justin. find out for yourself.

 

[oldirty]

And no, the shine is still on the saddle. Don't have much need for it up in the tree when I KNOW what I'm doing.

LOL.

at least you admit you dont know your ass from your elbow.


thanks for the laugh.

 

[Ghillie]

Oh, but it did work didn't it. And the guy is a pro too. And I'l bet he has a better handle on what he's doing then you or I do.

All the armchair experts. :chatter:

How many crane/boom truck jobs have you worked on?

Just trying to identify the armchair experts here.

 

[ATH]

And don't forget;

no chaps
don't see and hearing protection
no face shield
no gloves

What a HACK!!!

1) ANSI Z133.1-2006 3.4.8: "Chain-saw-resistant leg protection shall be worn while operating a chain saw during ground operations."
2) Pretty tough to tell if he has ear plugs in or not.
3) He does clearly have eye protection. Face shield, while prefered by many, I am pretty sure is not required. 3.4.3 does say: "Face protection shall comply with applicable federal regulations as well as with ANSI Z87.1". I do not have that Z87.1 standard in front of me, but as I understand it, the Z133 is telling us the rating of the face shield, not that it must be used. In contrast to 3.4.3, 3.4.7 says "Eye protection shall comply with ANSI Z87.1 and shall be worn when engaged in arboricultural operations." So that really leads be to believe that face shield is not required.
4) No gloves? He must have really red hands and be wearing a white wrist band on his right hand...but I would have sworn those are gloves.

 

[ATH]

I'm SOOOOO sure I'll be attacked on this but hey, so what.

Who really cares what the cut is? Its being removed because it was damaged, right? Its arbor demolition. Anyone that is a carpenter doesn't care how he cuts down a building to be demo-ed. Just get it gone. And thats whats happening here, no? He's not cutting it for furniture lumber or for the board feet or for the health of the tree. Its trash and is being removed because it's not wanted. Who cares what the cut is?

Now perfectionists, ATTACK!!!!

Not intended to attack here...maybe just help clarify what the concern is:

I completely disagree that a "carpenter doesn't care how he cuts down a building to be demo-ed. Just get it done." People get paid a lot of money and put a lot of research into it. If they didn't care, they'd thow a few hundred pounds of explosives in the lobby of the building and let-er-rip, right.

Sure the building would be down either way, but safety and property damage have to be taken into account. Shouldn't the same be the case in trimming or removing a tree?

 

[grizzly2]

If the cut doesn't matter, then why do we put a notch in a tree that's being felled? Just cut it, it's being removed, who cares?

Well, I care. Personally, I've been the cause of some bad cuts. It sucks. Even a good cut can still backfire in a big way. But without that good cut, you're just opening yourself up for problems.

 

[capetrees]

Cutting a notch in a tree being felled and cutting a tree being removed by crane are totally different in that the notch is used for directing the trees fall. If its being lifted up and away, why cut a notch?

 

[grizzly2]

I was giving an example. You don't need a notch in the section being lifted by a crane, but you do need a proper cut. If you booger the cut, the section could 'pop' off the trunk, not just liift free. That can be an issue when your face is only a foot or two away from the big piece of wood. The control just isn't there. The point of the crane is to minimize the risks. Basically, to answer your statment from a while ago, the cut isn't meant to have nice wood, it's meant to create more control over the situation.