Anyone using these borazon wheels?

[Stihl 041S]

ARE they 1x1x6 or 1/2x1/2x6?

 

[PA Plumber]

I only grinder sharpen about 25 or so times per year. Is this worth getting the borazon wheel?

Also, would the 1/8" wheel work on my chain up to 3/8"?

 

[Haywire Haywood]

The 1/8 wheel is for 325 and 3/8 lo pro. The 3/16 wheel is for 3/8 and 404.

At the same place I got the wheel, they're selling a 1x1x6 aluminum oxide stick for 2.95 + shipping. Look under the 'dressing tools' tab. Now depending on what they're charging for shipping, it might not be a good deal after all.

Plumber, if you are proficient at and don't mind keeping the profile of the regular wheel up to snuff, and are good about not overheating the tooth then I'd say no. It appears to be just the ticket for me. No worrying about whether the wheel is the right shape, no dust, and a cooler grind. As soon as the bank account recovers a bit I'm getting another one for my 325 chain.

Ian

 

[PA Plumber]

The 1/8 wheel is for 325 and 3/8 lo pro. The 3/16 wheel is for 3/8 and 404.

At the same place I got the wheel, they're selling a 1x1x6 aluminum oxide stick for 2.95 + shipping. Look under the 'dressing tools' tab. Now depending on what they're charging for shipping, it might not be a good deal after all.

Plumber, if you are proficient at and don't mind keeping the profile of the regular wheel up to snuff, and are good about not overheating the tooth then I'd say no. It appears to be just the ticket for me. No worrying about whether the wheel is the right shape, no dust, and a cooler grind. As soon as the bank account recovers a bit I'm getting another one for my 325 chain.

Ian

I'll stick with the cheapie wheels for now then. My felling saw is mostly hand sharpened with the occassional machine grind to clean up from cutting "bad" wood (rock/steel/glass insulator imbedded).

I do use the 1/8 wheel for my .325 stuff fairly often. It gets dressed after sharpening 4 chains or so, and if I'm careful, no blueing.

 

[Paul61]

In any type of grinding you must keep the wheel clean of build up.In industrial applications such as grinding camshafts,they use a constant flow of coolant over the wheel.They also periodically dress the wheel to assure a good finish.

I don't grind chains but I do have some tiny little points etc that fit in both the diegrinders and the smaller Dremel types that are CBN.I don't use then on the saws because they would load up almost instantly cutting aluminum.

I also have a flat CNB wheel that is used to cut carbide to reshape lathe tools.Due to the fact that I normally use replaceable carbide inserts,it seldom gets any use.Fact is,I'm not real sure what I did with it at the moment.

For the record:

Both CBN (Cubic Boron Nitrite - GE patent & trade name) & Diamond are classified as "Super Abrasives"

Diamond wheels for use on Carbide ONLY.

CBN - ONLY on steel, better suited for hardness of 59 RC +

BTW, I just happen to have the Tyrolit tech rep. in my office as I type this.

Also, new Borazon (CBN) wheels require dressing to perform properly using an Alum. Oxide (white) abrasive stick.

Paul

 

[Stihl 041S]

Paul 61; Do you mean cleaning or dressing with AO?
I think of cleaning with AO though they call them dressing sticks don't they.

I think of dressing as in making the wheel round.

Otherwise I agree 100%,cbn made grindingof M4, M42, and T15, SOOO much nicer. And dianomd for carbide, tell them again.

Green wheels for shaping carbide, damond for sharpening it.

Rob.

 

[Al Smith]

For the record:

"

Diamond wheels for use on Carbide ONLY.

CBN - ONLY on steel, better suited for hardness of 59 RC +

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Paul

The points were deburring tooling for deburring crankshaft holes,used robotically.

Actually I use a "greenwheel" more often than the flat plate wheel that is synthetic diamond.The other works fine but is sort of a pain to use because of my homemade mounting for it,as I don't really have the proper grinder to mount it on.

 

[ents]

I can get a price break at 20+. Grit is fine. I don't know the price in the real world. I can do Norton 1x1x6 for $8.00 delivered.

Could someone check if this is a good deal for you.

Rob

If it is I'll start a thread for them.

Rob,

The only place I looked was Grainger and they are 9.73 + S&H for the Norton 1x1x6 AO. Don't know how competitive Grainger is with their pricing. $8/unit delivered sounds good but what will your cost be to turn them around? What's the life span of these sticks? In any case, if Norton is top notch for abrasives and your pricing turns out good (for you and everyone else), I'm in for two.

Guess now I'll have to go and order a CBN wheel.

 

[Stihl 041S]

Ents:, I'm a member, not a businessma. Like the Shim/washer kits, Pay when you get them, this is a payback for the help I get here.

I'm thinking 1 for $8 or 2 for $15.

I think that a 30 post minimum for them unless you have ordered them before or sent me a check. Maybe this will change.

I'll start a thread this weekend.

Rob

 

[RaisedByWolves]

Actually I use a "greenwheel" more often than the flat plate wheel that is synthetic diamond.

CANCER Cancer CANCER!


Lung cancer, Specifically Silicosis.



Em Greenwheels are like Death on a stick, I dont like using them at work, let alone at home.



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[Paul61]

Paul 61; Do you mean cleaning or dressing with AO?
I think of cleaning with AO though they call them dressing sticks don't they.

I think of dressing as in making the wheel round.

Otherwise I agree 100%,cbn made grindingof M4, M42, and T15, SOOO much nicer. And dianomd for carbide, tell them again.

Green wheels for shaping carbide, damond for sharpening it.

Rob.

Thanks for the reply Rob.

I hate to say cleaning but, I guess you're doing the same thing.
You're actually "sharpening" the base wheel material and ridding it of built up ground matter @ the same instance.

Paul

 

[ents]

I'll start a thread this weekend.

Rob

I'll be looking for it.

 

[Lakeside53]

Put me down for a 3/8" borazon wheel for a Stihl USG if a group order works out.

It won't unless you have a 12mm adapter. I had to make one for mine.

 

[Stihl 041S]

RBW;
the reason to always wet grind, keep the dust down.

 

[Al Smith]

CANCER Cancer CANCER!


Lung cancer, Specifically Silicosis.



Em Greenwheels are like Death on a stick, I dont like using them at work, let alone at home.



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Any dust is tough on you,ya know.Diamond on carbine isn't the best thing either.I know a woman that developed serious lung problems from using green silicon to etch glass and sea shells with a Dremel,lots of it.She did do wonderfull scrimshaw type stuff on shells.

Most of my carbine is replacable inserts and I seldom use the "greeny".The cutter grinders at work all wear good masks.

 

[Ole Farmerbuck]

I got the 1/8 and the 3/16 today. I only used the 1/8 for now to see how it works. Will know tomorrow but it does seem very course. I used it on the 95vp chain that came on my 346.

 

[ents]

Ole F.B.

Please do post up the results on those wheels. I'm running 95vp on my 353 so I'd be very interested.

 

[Ole Farmerbuck]

Ole F.B.

Please do post up the results on those wheels. I'm running 95vp on my 353 so I'd be very interested.

Ok will do.

 

[Ole Farmerbuck]

Rob,

The only place I looked was Grainger and they are 9.73 + S&H for the Norton 1x1x6 AO. Don't know how competitive Grainger is with their pricing. $8/unit delivered sounds good but what will your cost be to turn them around? What's the life span of these sticks? In any case, if Norton is top notch for abrasives and your pricing turns out good (for you and everyone else), I'm in for two.

Guess now I'll have to go and order a CBN wheel.

I got one with my wheels from the company but it was only about 4". (i think) It was 2.95

 

[Haywire Haywood]

I just ordered the thinner wheel for my 346 last night and got a dressing Stick with it this time. I haven't used the other one again for fear of messing it up since I can't clean it. I haven't been cutting much anyway so no biggie. I've been splitting and stacking. I don't enjoy that nearly as much as cutting.

Ian

Edit... yep, my mind fart got quoted before I noticed and changed it.