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I prolly wouldn't have bought one if it weren't for the prince thread!!!
Better Question..........How Many 441's Has Thall Sold ???
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Me either...
Mine, however, is currently in the shop.
Mine, however, is currently in the shop.
manual
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Me either...
Mine, however, is currently in the shop.
So is my friends just bought it two weeks ago and droped it off at the Stihl dealer today because it broke.
Mines not broken....running like a top.
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Told me if anybody wants to buy a 441 to tell him. but he's not going to give it away.
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THALL10326
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Last year sold 4-441's, 4-660's , 5-460's, and 3-440's. Have to understand I'm near DC, yuppie land. Its a mircale I sell any big saws at all. Have rolled a load of 361's out the door though, wedoggie. Where am at trimmers move alot more than saws where I am but saws are my favorite.
THALL10326
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My guess is nothing broke, He just wants to be the first to get the jabs in.
manual
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Ok now settle down and I'll tell you the story I got.
Now this is not made up and this is also not my saw.
I ran into my friend today at the general Store and he asked me if I could get more power out of his 441.
He said that he likes the Anti vibe system, But the power band just drops out of it.
He's been cutting veneer oak all week, And he doesn't think it is now near as good as the 440. Especially plunge cutting.
"Now he has both saws so I would think that would qualify him to say so".
Today he was felling with it as he was doing a plunge cut and the saw grabbed hard and chain fell off. when he went to put it on again he noticed the adjuster was broken.
I said "you must not have had the bar nuts tight enough.".
He said "nope they were tight".
I don't know if this is a warranty issue, The dealer is checking it out.
Now this is not made up and this is also not my saw.
I ran into my friend today at the general Store and he asked me if I could get more power out of his 441.
He said that he likes the Anti vibe system, But the power band just drops out of it.
He's been cutting veneer oak all week, And he doesn't think it is now near as good as the 440. Especially plunge cutting.
"Now he has both saws so I would think that would qualify him to say so".
Today he was felling with it as he was doing a plunge cut and the saw grabbed hard and chain fell off. when he went to put it on again he noticed the adjuster was broken.
I said "you must not have had the bar nuts tight enough.".
He said "nope they were tight".
I don't know if this is a warranty issue, The dealer is checking it out.
manual
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What ever dude, Not jabing.
THALL10326
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Well hell thats a minor issue, bar shoved back and snapped the plug off the adjuster, no biggie, 6.00 part. As for not as good as a 440 he may well be right if he's doing alot of plunge sawing. The 440 is alot stiffer but the vibes are alot more as well. The suspension on the 441 is softer and 50% smoother so he may be right. Power wise hmmmmmmmmm that I doult seriously but its his saw, he may feel that way.
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What does plunge cutting have to do with anything? Does he know how to tune a saw's carb? An improperly tuned carb will ruin your power band.
(Not calling you out Manual, or calling BS, just asking because I don't know.
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What does plunge cutting have to do with anything? Does he know how to tune a saw's carb? An improperly tuned carb will ruin your power band.
(Not calling you out Manual, or calling BS, just asking because I don't know.
He has been a logger al his life and tunes his own saws.
That was my thought being a new saw and all, I'm going to wait and see how he likes it after the dealer gives it back to him.
As far a plunge cutting goes, going through oak like that would sure put it through its power band.
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My guess is the dealer is going to take care of him.
I'm with you on the bar getting shoved back. But he said no way.
Well thats his story and I was not there to say any different.
THALL10326
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Well Manual if he's a big fan of plunge sawing, which I avoid best I can, chances are he's not going to like the soft suspension of the 441 compared to the stiff suspension of the 440. Power wise though if his new 441 is running properly the 440 isn't going to out power it, tant gonna happen...
manual
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Now keep in mind This is what he is telling me. Also he has never read the prince thread.
He has been using both saws this week. Also I might add the 440 is atleast a year old. Ended up using his Huskys today and is now ready to buy a new 372.
tek9tim
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Hmm... the plate with the adjuster stud is the same as on the 440. The studs on a 441 are not different enough to blame this as an issue entirely unique to the 441. The only time I've had a tensioner stud break on an 044 from throwing a chain was when I didn't have the bar nuts tight.
