Bidding two huge take-downs----

[treeclimber101]

3k a day wouldn't cut it here. Crane rental for the job I mentioned in my previous post was over $2400 for the 12 hours I was billed (that's with a fuel sircharge billed in). There was another company who bid ahead of me that owned their own crane and they came in substantially higher than me, so the HO said. Just be careful about figuring your crane time correctly. If you can blow it out in a day then your doing pretty good. If you have to use the crane for two days you need to charge accordingly. Got to make sure you don't screw yourself with crane rental.

wow what a racket crane rental is huh makes me wonder .

 

[tree md]

wow what a racket crane rental is huh makes me wonder .

Yeah, I agree.

Most crane rentals are less costly. The one mentioned was higher because it was the largest crane they had, fuel costs were high and the sircharge was like 6% at the time and I had to pick up 4 hours of overtime for the crane operator and supervisor (needed him on that job because it was a blind pick). With the smaller cranes the rentals are much cheaper.

 

[Highclimber OR]

I use the exact same strategy that John Paul Sanborn uses and it has worked like a charm for me. If they don't want to pay then I am not interested anyway.

 

[treeclimber101]

Yeah, I agree.

Most crane rentals are less costly. The one mentioned was higher because it was the largest crane they had, fuel costs were high and the sircharge was like 6% at the time and I had to pick up 4 hours of overtime for the crane operator and supervisor (needed him on that job because it was a blind pick). With the smaller cranes the rentals are much cheaper.

other than damaging landscape or paver work i'll skip its cheaper to work it down and fix any lawn damage our crane prices range from 1000 to 1500 for a 30 ton

 

[tree md]

other than damaging landscape or paver work i'll skip its cheaper to work it down and fix any lawn damage our crane prices range from 1000 to 1500 for a 30 ton

I agree with that too but when I can blow out 3 very large trees in one day with a crane as opposed to taking 2-3 days of rigging them down it is more cost effective to use the crane. Especially when one tree is hollow and damaged to the point that that it is not safe to rig from and the only TIP would swing you into power lines. Sometimes the crane makes more sense and sometimes it is the only way to safely bring one down.

 

[treeclimber101]

I agree with that too but when I can blow out 3 very large tree in one day with a crane as opposed to taking 2-3 days of rigging them down it is more cost effective to use the crane. Especially when one tree is hollow and damaged to the point that that it is not safe to rig from and the only TIP would swing you into power lines. Sometimes the crane make more sense and sometimes it is the only way to safely bring one down.

yea thats well understood but its seems that i rarely get those really ####ed up trees and thats a good thing . i like to prune all day long less wear and tear on equip and men , if i had my way i would never cut another tree completely down again.i would rather do 4 houses for 600 in pruning than work 10 hrs. on one removal . i like to change the scenery

 

[tree md]

yea thats well understood but its seems that i rarely get those really ####ed up trees and thats a good thing . i like to prune all day long less wear and tear on equip and men , if i had my way i would never cut another tree completely down again.i would rather do 4 houses for 600 in pruning than work 10 hrs. on one removal . i like to change the scenery

Same here. I always do better putting smaller jobs together. Got to do it all when your in the service side of the biz though.

I got a call from a lady today that I did a trim job for about a year and a half ago. She said I did a great job and the tree held up fine in last year's ice storm but the utility guys came in and hacked it to pieces, the reason she called me in the first place was to keep them out of the tree. Anyway looks like they took too much out of it and she wants me to remove it now. Hate having to remove one that I worked hard to save.

 

[treeclimber101]

Same here. I always do better putting smaller jobs together. Got to do it all when your in the service side of the biz though.

I got a call from a lady today that I did a trim job for about a year and a half ago. She said I did a great job and the tree held up fine in last year's ice storm but the utility guys came in and hacked it to pieces, the reason she called me in the first place was to keep them out of the tree. Anyway looks like they took too much out of it and she wants me to remove it now. Hate having to remove one that I worked hard to save.

my dad always told me you can remove it once and its good money maybe, or you can trim right for the rest of your time as a tree worker and make your money plus some i love pruning

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

In regards to that guy who's ruining the biz for everyone in your area: I think it's time to call one of the boys from Chicago to come to your town and explain to Mr. Near-Freebie the error of his ways. If he cracks wise, he'll be sleeping with the fishes!

He's just saving tax dollars.

 

[tree md]

He's just saving tax dollars.

Kind of sounds like the "Walmart" of the tree industry...

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Not really, there are a few people around here like that. They live in the community and do the work for around cost.

There are a few arborists that are official Tree Wardens on a volunteer basis.