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Then it'll be time to get one of those Kurillion (sp?) bear dogs and a hogleg.

Or maybe a couple of bear dogs?

If the grizzly thing is true, the fish and wildlife have lied again. The wildlife folks swore they would not move bears here, they would leave things be.
 
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Then it'll be time to get one of those Kurillion (sp?) bear dogs and a hogleg.

Or maybe a couple of bear dogs?

If the grizzly thing is true, the fish and wildlife have lied again. The wildlife folks swore they would not move bears here, they would leave things be.

My horse shoeing buddy has a client that trains those karelian bear dogs. Awesome dogs, and the trainer is an awesome lady. She travels all over the world with them. Probably just a matter of time til you guys have grizzlies over there. Wolves too, unless they are already there. If not there goes that ten head of Elk you saw, along with the rest. They have wreaked havoc on our elk and deer herds here, unless you talk to a fern feeler; They will tell you that the herds are just as healthy as ever! We have 15 packs of wolves in the Bitterroot Valley alone, and I have read that one pack survives on one elk (or the equivalent in other ungulates) per day...that is 5000 head per year just in the Bitterroot! :bang:
 
My horse shoeing buddy has a client that trains those karelian bear dogs. Awesome dogs, and the trainer is an awesome lady. She travels all over the world with them. Probably just a matter of time til you guys have grizzlies over there. Wolves too, unless they are already there. If not there goes that ten head of Elk you saw, along with the rest. They have wreaked havoc on our elk and deer herds here, unless you talk to a fern feeler; They will tell you that the herds are just as healthy as ever! We have 15 packs of wolves in the Bitterroot Valley alone, and I have read that one pack survives on one elk (or the equivalent in other ungulates) per day...that is 5000 head per year just in the Bitterroot! :bang:

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One of the higher ups in the department I know (I won't mention his name) just got back from some kind of Grizzly bear summit with the feds. The plans are in the works. It's just a matter of time.
And Wolves? They're already here at least in Eastern WA as far west as the Winthrop area. They just closed comments on the wolf managemet plan. Their prefered version calls for 9 breeding pairs in the South Cascades and Coastal WA.
Fisher? When they are established here on the Peninsula, South Cascades is next.
A whole lot of legal fodder there.
 
Read a few articles about the Griz being reintroduced in the North Cascades the granola herd was really whining about the danger of this. They only want cute fuzzy nature that cant eat them before they change from earth first to me first.
 
Read a few articles about the Griz being reintroduced in the North Cascades the granola herd was really whining about the danger of this. They only want cute fuzzy nature that cant eat them before they change from earth first to me first.

Can't remember the exact location, but I remember that in the fall of around 2003 a few Grizzlies were around 35 miles east of Bellingham.
 
Before I went into exile, the timber sale contracts on one northern forest had a clause that loggers were to have a bear proof container on site for logger food, and were not to leave lunches out and about because there might could be grizzlies around as it was their kind of habitat. One of those, just shake your head and laugh things because crying isn't as pleasant.

The Cheeseheads said they'd be glad to ship Fishers over to us. Fishers are plentiful and considered a pest there. I saw one close up. He looked like he was not having a pleasant day so I left him clinging to his tree.

I didn't go hiking on any trails there either. There were packs of wolves. The wolves will attack and kill dogs. I like to take my dog with me. The wolves were becoming used to logging being done and would watch sometimes. One logger had his dog out with him, saw a wolf, got his dog in the skidder and then drove back to the landing with the wolf following. That story made the local paper.

Wisconsin is the place I had the closest encounter with a black (actually cinnamon) bear. The only thing I could think to do was to spray it with paint from my paintgun and when the bear was almost in range, it finally clicked in his brain to go away. Whew! I think he was deaf and blind cuz I was yelling and waving arms and blowing a whistle. He looked so calm.
 
Before I went into exile, the timber sale contracts on one northern forest had a clause that loggers were to have a bear proof container on site for logger food, and were not to leave lunches out and about because there might could be grizzlies around as it was their kind of habitat. One of those, just shake your head and laugh things because crying isn't as pleasant.

The Cheeseheads said they'd be glad to ship Fishers over to us. Fishers are plentiful and considered a pest there. I saw one close up. He looked like he was not having a pleasant day so I left him clinging to his tree.

I didn't go hiking on any trails there either. There were packs of wolves. The wolves will attack and kill dogs. I like to take my dog with me. The wolves were becoming used to logging being done and would watch sometimes. One logger had his dog out with him, saw a wolf, got his dog in the skidder and then drove back to the landing with the wolf following. That story made the local paper.

Wisconsin is the place I had the closest encounter with a black (actually cinnamon) bear. The only thing I could think to do was to spray it with paint from my paintgun and when the bear was almost in range, it finally clicked in his brain to go away. Whew! I think he was deaf and blind cuz I was yelling and waving arms and blowing a whistle. He looked so calm.

Ahh, who needs pepper spray, when you have tree paint! Awesome :)
 
Clearcutting an East Coast/Midwest hardwood (Maple/birch/beech) forest is the deathknell for that forest. I drove by a part of one of our national forests in Wisconsin a few years ago and it had been clearcut. It looked like it had been cut about 5-10 years ago because the trees were scrub and 10-15' tall. It turns out that woods was cut over 70 years ago and they call it the Charlie Brown Forest because every tree looks like a Charlie Brown Christmas Tree. Hardwood forests go through successions and interrupt that suggession by clearcutting and it is straight back to the beginning of the succession (poplar, then pine, then softwoods like soft maple and ash, then hard maples and cherries, and finally birch/beech).
 
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