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Toddppm said:
This story is interesting, only 70 board certified arborists nationwide?
75 as of August 10th 2005
The program has only been around for maybe 2 years?
One year
Still would think there'd be more certified? Alot of people fail the test or not many even taking it? l]
Of the 75, many had to retake it. 113 total have tried. I expect the expense is a factor as well as the intimidation factor. 20 ceu's a year is not that hard; 2 per month avg?

Nice of Kathryn's boss to pay; shows that it's a good investment for individuals and businesses alike.
 
The worst part of getting certified is writing the check. Why does it have to be so expensive?
 
$350 to take the test is a lot, but it costs that much per year to belong to ASCA, so relative to that it's a little. It was a good investment for me.
 
I've always had trouble getting ceu's, other than the "Arborist News" send-ins. I love to go to conferences (well, a big chunk can be boring, but there's always something new, and some good people to ask questions of) but it actually can be hard to pull away from work and lose money and pay lots of money to stay somewhere and attend something, especially if you want the extra days of field class you gotta pay more. I understand that the ISA and TCIA have to generate revenue to survive and grow. I do wish there were a few more ways to get ceu's and actually learn something. What happened to the online course they had for a while on appraisal? I was hoping they would keep putting up new ones of those, hopefully with some really good new information. When I filled out the member survey, I think the thing I suggested most was for an attempt at more unified availability of new information and research, not only from arboricultural specific research, but from relevant research from related fields like tree physiology, forestry, forest ecology, and on and on. I usually stumble across useful information and wish I could have had access to it easier and earlier. I think that the ISA could do alot for us in that way.
But, I'm getting off-topic, sorry. The BCMA test is hard enough that there's not ever going to be a ton of those who have passed it. Which, I guess, is the point. I thought the CA exam was too easy, but it's a great program to have as a baseline standard of knowledge.
 
Actually, I hope the end of my post doesn't sound insulting to those who have worked hard to become certified. I really do think it's a great program, and I say it was easy, but I took it after years of studying and trying hard to learn about trees. It's not just a money-making gimmick for the ISA (as I've heard some complain), it's trying to set standards. We should all strive to be the best professionals we can, right?
 
What happened to the online course they had for a while on appraisal?

Good question; I can only guess they did not get the numbers to work. Now there is another online "course", here: http://on-line-seminars.com
.75 ceu's for skimming an article (or not ) and posting a comment. It can't get any easier than that, folks.

In australia they have ArborCamp, where you can bring the family and camp cheap and have the educational experience and get the ceu's and hang out with each other. http://isaac.org.au/arborcamp/docs/Arbor Camp Program 2005.pdf I'd like to see something like that happen here but the planning committees are made up largely of the expense-account crowd so they like the 5-star places that you and I could do without.

I've tried to get our state urban forest councils and isa regional chapters to meet out in the woods where the trees are. No go; these orgs are run by the expense-account crowd because they dominate the planning committees because they get paid to meet and plan. The system sucks; the conferences are at 5-star hotels like Opryland so the average arbo attends only at great expense and sacrifice.

Then the administrators wonder why the participation is so skewed toward the expense-account crowd. And round and round we go. It's crazy.
One notable exception is the midatlantic isa chapter that has an all-day field day before the 2 days inside.
 
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