Brits talkin about Brit stuff
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Lobo said:
don't know don't care
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these countryside management degrees are useful if you want to become a ranger and thats really it. you dont do enough of one subject to really get to grips with it well except interpretation (making those nice interpretation boards you see everywhere). 4 years of lots of subjects that paddle round the deeper stuff.
i spent my first year applying for seasonal ranger jobs, i applied for one where i did my dissertation. got a 2:1 for it and the head ranger was well chuffed, it was used in their 10 year management plan. i was there everyweekend and when not surveying was helping with the ranger team. i was applicant no 174 for 4 posts not even an interview......
i'll give it a miss if its all the same.
wish i had done forestry / arb now. get a more useful degree long ago.
they are good if you want to be a ranger, i came out thinking something practical or science and im not trained for either, bugger. there goes more money and more courses.
jamie
these countryside management degrees are useful if you want to become a ranger and thats really it. you dont do enough of one subject to really get to grips with it well except interpretation (making those nice interpretation boards you see everywhere). 4 years of lots of subjects that paddle round the deeper stuff.
i spent my first year applying for seasonal ranger jobs, i applied for one where i did my dissertation. got a 2:1 for it and the head ranger was well chuffed, it was used in their 10 year management plan. i was there everyweekend and when not surveying was helping with the ranger team. i was applicant no 174 for 4 posts not even an interview......
i'll give it a miss if its all the same.
wish i had done forestry / arb now. get a more useful degree long ago.
they are good if you want to be a ranger, i came out thinking something practical or science and im not trained for either, bugger. there goes more money and more courses.
jamie
Any of you self-employed Brits carry a CIS card? I spoke to the Tax Office and they said I didnt need one, but some companies say its necessary? I understand that if they are doing hard landscaping they come under construction industry regs, but Arb and forestry are under Horticulture and farming. Any points of view? 
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NO NOT NECESSERY! DEFINATLY NOT NEEDED!been through this with some big construction firm's and SERCO etc
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hey jamie, i got an across the board distinction for my thesis and rjb mining wanted to use but not pay me. i told them to stick it! 6 months hard graft for nowt, dont think so. i studied at houghall 5 years ago and got my hnd arb with no background wotsoeva. i nearly quit to do the nc but glad i didnt. still dont use it tho!!! will eventually!!! i hope!!
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iain said:
just dont have an accident
,this is a grey area i have been in touch with HSE OVER THIS ISSUE.They reccomend we should all use cherry picker's when possible according to them but like i said nothing is set in stone YET over this issue ,awards
got the award for outstanding work in an ecological field for my thesis, what does that mean outside uni...nowt. no one cared. found a nationally rare beetle, in large enough numbers and spread over a wide enough area to indicate a sustainable population, did that bother anyone....well apart from the reserve manager noone cared again....i lie my mum was proud. :jester:
jamie
got the award for outstanding work in an ecological field for my thesis, what does that mean outside uni...nowt. no one cared. found a nationally rare beetle, in large enough numbers and spread over a wide enough area to indicate a sustainable population, did that bother anyone....well apart from the reserve manager noone cared again....i lie my mum was proud. :jester:
jamie
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For more info on the Work at Height Regs get intouch with Liam at Treevolution as he was on the board that sorted out the regs that would effect our working.They are being included in the Good tree climbing guide produced by the AA later thuis year so i hear.
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Big A said:Any of you self-employed Brits carry a CIS card? I spoke to the Tax Office and they said I didnt need one, but some companies say its necessary? I understand that if they are doing hard landscaping they come under construction industry regs, but Arb and forestry are under Horticulture and farming. Any points of view?
we work for a co that insist on cis, as a matter of course its the way they work
this is what i was told by the tax office
cis req`d for site preperation works, if the whole scheme is related in some way to constuction, however if you are carring out remedial works, even take downs on a site because of an, arb issue or maintenance(pruning etc)
basically because of tree management then, it doesn`t apply
that was 18 months or so ago , i find that when talking to government bods, the story is never the same from person to person, they get confused when dealing with tree issues (not just trees)
i tried to Get it in Writing from them, hope you have better luck
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Ross Turner said:
cheers Ross
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No probs Iain
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Lobo said:Interesting, we always thought you brits were really in to this King and Queen stuff.
all the royal family are is a source of story's for the tabloid press which most people take no notice of whatsoever
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we most certainly do not need a CIS card for tree work ,but what about site clearence ???
Lobo when we become a Communist country we will execute the royal parasite's !!
Lobo when we become a Communist country we will execute the royal parasite's !!
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ROLLACOSTA said:we most certainly do not need a CIS card for tree work ,but what about site clearence ???
Lobo when we become a Communist country we will execute the royal parasite's !!
Rolla
i was told by the tax office that, if the work we carry out is a prelude to a larger scheme, which involve`s the consruction on, or a permanant development of a site then, cis applys
they grey area is when does a new build site stop being new ! , ie
1 if you carry out clearance, in order for works to commence ,then are called back to prune the remaining trees, for asthetics, so that the site is more appealing to prospective buyers.
2 if you carry out clearance, in order for works to commence ,then are called back to prune the remaining trees, for asthetics, after the site has been sold on.
as i understand it all of option 1 applys, whereas only the site clearance of option 2 is subject to cis
what do you think !!
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iain said:
That's what I understood.
If you contract, some local authorities want you to have one.I think they're paranoid about unwittingly taking on contractors who aren't properly registered with the IR. I had to get one, then turn up in person at their finance office with it..this was for sycamore clearance on a grassland site, nothing to do with construction. They still insisted on the card, but paid me the full whack without withholding any tax.
Contacted the Tax Office again about the CIS to try to clear up the "grey area", the reply was in a nutshell "we dont do grey areas, its all black and white! You arent Construction Industry so dont bother!" So as someone advises above, if they ask for it, I'll avoid the work. As also stated before, it seems to depend on who you talk to at the Tax Office, and how each one interprets the rules. 
