Brits talkin about Brit stuff

[Ross Turner]

Was looking at the Vertex any good.

 

[SteveBullman]

none, im using plugs and glasses...much cooler to work in

 

[iain]

The 'guest' finally rears his head.

Hello to all the British (and international) Tree workers. I have been dropping in every now and again for a read and a nosey around since I was given the URL while looking at chippers at the AA show at the back end of June. Now it is time to register and hopefully start to contribute.

At the moment I am watching, reading and learning so keep up the banter.

Kev

did those chippers look like this one by any chance

 

[Ross Turner]

what glasses and what plugs? steve

 

[SteveBullman]

bolle silium glasses, and plugs im still expermenting with at the mo, using b&q disposables just now.
you can pick bolle siliums up on ebay real cheap, about £6. you'll pay about £15 at arb suppliers

 

[Thor's Hammer]

i just bought the black diamond half dome, im well pleased with it.

any pics?

 

[SteveBullman]

http://www.needlesports.com/acatalog/Mail_Order_Helmets_17.html

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

I think your helmet /plugs/glasses is a grey area insurance wise,because what happens if you injure your face?? or rip an ear off ? ,ear protecters offer protection against hearing problems and they protect your ears against knocks and bangs.

I expect someone on here will be able to tell me/us how insurance companys will veiw this type of head protection

 

[clearance]

S T S - can't remember, just a wee lad when we left, probably on the wrong side of the tracks somewhere. When I was back in '99, my gran was showing me the place, going on about how much it had been cleaned up. I though you must be feckin joking but I kept quite. Parts of that town are really nice, especially on the outskirts. I always wear proper forestry equipment- hardhat with the earmuffs and the metal face screen. It is good safe setup.

 

[SteveBullman]

to be honest rolla, what isnt a grey area these days. you can be sure if there is a way to avoid paying up the insurance co will find it.
for a start my typeA chainsaw trousers are illegal for climbing but i sure aint gonna start wearing type c anytime soon

 

[S_T_S]

Iain

Suprisingly enough yes they looked just like that. Still considering buying one and might be contacting landforce (?) shortly with regards to potentially trialling one.

Any other recommendations for 'my first(TM)' chipper? Potentially considering a 4" to save some initial outlay but I know it will hamper my working day. I am only working part time (~60%)at the moment to pay for all my gear and NPTC licenses, then looking at a house move and going full time at year end or early next year.

Kev

 

[unimog]

Just picked up a leaflet from our councils tree warden group. I Quote " Advice on hiring an arborist. Check in the Yellow pages and look for the ISA logo"

Better still look on Birmingham councils web site, "approved contractors" Direct link to the AA approved list.

Just spoke to AA. Normal crap " we are the best etc and we are now in touch with the average contractor". Now have around 150 approved contractors.Thats a real good % when there are at last count 16000 contractors out there in the UK.

I have been an approved contractor and sat on the Northern Branch committee. Soon realised it was a waste of time and money. Who police's these so called expert Associations, No one apart from the top industry pro's, who also happen to sit on the committee's.

About time we started our own Association. How about the BACA, British Arborist Contracting Ass. All we need do is register as a charity, get 10 people to form a commitee and bingo.

PS. I have already spoken to two Manufacturer's that would help with real money. Why? because they feel that none of the trade magazines do any real on trial tests. (except woodwise,FBT). Think of the extra deals we could negotiate and the buying power....... Worth thinking about

Anyone interested?

 

[Thor's Hammer]

Count me in.

 

[Ross Turner]

Sounds a good idea,about time.

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

count me in also but lets think of a better name hey !

ANYONE KNOW OF A KUBOTA TRACTOR DEALER [SECONDHAND COMPACT]???

 

[iain]

Iain

Suprisingly enough yes they looked just like that. Still considering buying one and might be contacting landforce (?) shortly with regards to potentially trialling one.

Any other recommendations for 'my first(TM)' chipper? Potentially considering a 4" to save some initial outlay but I know it will hamper my working day. I am only working part time (~60%)at the moment to pay for all my gear and NPTC licenses, then looking at a house move and going full time at year end or early next year.

Kev

Kev
urgh chippers they are much the same who ever you buy from, brash goes in one end chip leave's out the other end .
the main issue from your mine and every other guy on here is what the company does to bail you out of the sh1t, when it goes tits up, coz they all do
2nd hand been there done that, got my fingers burnt had road wheels fall off the full monti
i wouldn't go for 4" what you will save in money now you will lose in lost turnover , you'll get sick of the extra snedding and brashing out and will also have a mountain of logwood a pro machine is imo no less than 6" twin roller min 27hp when did you pass you're drivnig licence ? re weight restrictions!!

as i said at the show if this machine doesnt do what i say then tell every one on here i', full of it ! however you could ask Blue using a 9" landforce and also pruner1 they've got a 8" landforce

if you want to see the l'force working ring me you can come up and watch my team put it though its paces or i'll bring one down too you ,only problem is when you see it work you'll want one ( which ain't a problem really honest it can be sorted)
if you want i'll send you my phone number via a private message
rgds iain

 

[Thor's Hammer]

Iain... My idea of pro is no less than 12 x 20" and 100hp...hehehe

 

[iain]

Just picked up a leaflet from our councils tree warden group. I Quote " Advice on hiring an arborist. Check in the Yellow pages and look for the ISA logo"

Better still look on Birmingham councils web site, "approved contractors" Direct link to the AA approved list.

Just spoke to AA. Normal crap " we are the best etc and we are now in touch with the average contractor". Now have around 150 approved contractors.Thats a real good % when there are at last count 16000 contractors out there in the UK.

I have been an approved contractor and sat on the Northern Branch committee. Soon realised it was a waste of time and money. Who police's these so called expert Associations, No one apart from the top industry pro's, who also happen to sit on the committee's.

About time we started our own Association. How about the BACA, British Arborist Contracting Ass. All we need do is register as a charity, get 10 people to form a commitee and bingo.

PS. I have already spoken to two Manufacturer's that would help with real money. Why? because they feel that none of the trade magazines do any real on trial tests. (except woodwise,FBT). Think of the extra deals we could negotiate and the buying power....... Worth thinking about

Anyone interested?

tony
you know i'm up for this as we discussed , i'm sick of the self importance of an organisation who proport to represent the arboricultural industry but only have a membership numbering hundreds from a potential of i believe 16,000 arb company's uk wide ( i wonder why ? they must be held in such esteem by their piers !! ) or not
i've recently read and complained to the publishers of horticulture week re work @ height regs, in which 2 aa directors seem to blow sunshine up themselves, however only one was portraid in his aa role the other was disguised as an independant company director running a large organisation recommending the implementation of the new aa guide etc ,etc . what a crok
this is the real world gentlemen !!! welcome too it

 

[iain]

Iain... My idea of pro is no less than 12 x 20" and 100hp...hehehe

yeah fair comment mate this lads just starting out
would you agree that a 4" chipper is a wate of his money
regardless of who he buys from or indeed what he buys, i would hate the bloke to waste his hard earned money

 

[Thor's Hammer]

sorry bud I'm only teasing. horses for courses and all that, wish i'd stuck to a small chipper and transit...