Broke the cardinal chainsaw rule... Now sparks fly

[slowp]

I think I have to disagree with you slowp. It's not BS. When you drop $500+ on a quality tool that provides for you (heat for my home), I'm not lending it out. I'll come over and help out, but I'm running my saw. Even a cheap, backup saw has a purpose - Be available in the event of the primary saw going down.

Too many times, I watched my dad lend out tools to his skilled nephews only to see them returned in horrible condition. These were guys that used tools for a living and took care of their own, but everytime they returned them they would be abused. Dad would end up spending his time to repair or clean what they messed up. Finally he said no more and I have to agree with him. I know that isn't always how it happens, but I learned a lesson that not everyone cares about your equipment like you do.

Well, I guess I just have some really good friends. My gun comes back cleaned and oiled, my dog comes back happy, and I wouldn't hesitate to loan out my 440 to those friends. Or old Sparkless, or my pickup, etc. Plus, I'd loan out my saw to some of my neighbors, who are not that good of friends. They sure know more about running them than I. They'd also be a lot quicker to get a tree cut up in the neighborhood than I would.

 

[Philbert]

I loan out tools selectively. I will loan any neighbor a shovel, as long as I think they will return it. Get increasingly selective with power tools.

Maintaining tools is somewhat of a hobby for me. For others, they are a consumable. That is what rental yards are for.

As much as I love her, I never loan my dog a chainsaw.

Philbert

 

[Homelite410]

I will loan out my loaner saw!

Or if your cutting with me, ill let you run one of my saws...

Or perhaps it'd be best if I just come over and do what you need dine with my saw.

 

[Philbert]

Or if your cutting with me, ill let you run one of my saws...

That's one of the better default options. If they are a real friend, they will probably appreciate your help and company. If they are just your 'friend' because you got nice stuff . . . .

In the OP's situation, it's hard to know if the nose sprocket just finally wore out or if his neighbor did something stupid. It can be hard for the borrower too; if something breaks from normal wear while they have it - what's their responsibility?

Like Slowp notes, I try to return borrowed things in cleaner/better condition than I received them. It takes a while to figure out who does that, and who brings stuff back caked in mud.

Philbert

 

[Philbert]

Back to the OP's original query.

Nose sprocket wear is not limited to the bearings: when the sprocket no longer keeps the tie straps off of the bar at the nose, it has lost its friction reducing purpose. Please see the attached illustration from Madsen's website.

Of course, you can still run it similar to a hard nosed bar, but with more drag, and more wear on your chain.

Philbert

 

[Homelite410]

Just lost one the other day! Smoke was a rolling off this one. Looks to be .060" lateral motion.

 

[ash man]

The one and only saw i leant out was to a buddy of mine whose own saw was at the shop and supposedly only needed mine for a short time. I finally after 2 months went to pick it up and the new bar was fried and my mint p&c was now scored. Thank god it was oonly a 029 super

 

[Homelite410]

The one and only saw i leant out was to a buddy of mine whose own saw was at the shop and supposedly only needed mine for a short time. I finally after 2 months went to pick it up and the new bar was fried and my mint p&c was now scored. Thank god it was oonly a 029 super

DON'T lend the 2260 out now!

 

[ash man]

No way will I ever lend out another saw. Unless like was mentioned earlier and you don't care about getting it back in one piece. Homelite410. Got the total bar and my is it preeettttyyyy. Can't wait to get the saw to mount it to.

 

[Philbert]

Just lost one the other day!

You have a CNC - make that into a rollernose!!!

Philbert

 

[Homelite410]

You have a CNC - make that into a rollernose!!!

Philbert

So........ do u have the roller?

 

[Stihl working hard]

No way will I ever lend out another saw. Unless like was mentioned earlier and you don't care about getting it back in one piece. Homelite410. Got the total bar and my is it preeettttyyyy. Can't wait to get the saw to mount it to.

I lent my ms 390 to my brother inlaw with good intentions of him looking after it I needed it for work only to be told his mate had borrowed it and it fell out of the tree onto the concrete path snapped the rear handle ruptured the fuel tank damaged chain and bent bar it took 2 weeks to get it back he paid to get it repaired but I was really p$&@?d

 

[Philbert]

Loaning something you borrowed to someone else is a whole 'nother issue . . .

Philbert

 

[ash man]

I don't like to borrow stuff. Probably why I have so many toys. On the other hand borrowing things doesn't seem to bother a lot of other people I know. Just gotta know when to say no.

 

[Stihl working hard]

I don't like to borrow stuff. Probably why I have so many toys. On the other hand borrowing things doesn't seem to bother a lot of other people I know. Just gotta know when to say no.

Couldn't have said it better myself

 

[slowp]

Oh, guess I should have also mentioned that I live in an area where the majority of guys over 50 years old worked in the woods at some time or the other. My neighbor is a retired old growth timber faller. My friends also logged for a while, one has had his son apprenticed out to a production faller for a learning experience. I'd loan Barbie to his sons too.

Now go buy another bar, or two. If you have a spare bar, you don't have to pack another saw around and have more room for firewood in the back of your pickup.

 

[Philbert]

Nice to 'see' you around Slowp! Missed your input while the site was down (I was hanging out elsewhere till things settled out a bit).

Philbert

 

[wyk]

Lending someone a chainsaw is asking for trouble enough between the liability and the maintenance headache, but lending out a firearm is madness - especially if the person is married...