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anyone every gotten paid by the cord? I threw a quote off the seat of my pants for $30 a cord dropped limbed and bucked to length, hand felling tree length firewood.

Yea right now my partner and I are getting $18 a cord droped, limbed, bucked, and piled for the forwarder. In red pine the productivity is low with only 3 1/2 cord cut in a weekend between two guys working 8-10 hours a day. It's a low price but it's spending money and gets my foot in the door for work later on in the year cutting decent timber.
 
Yea right now my partner and I are getting $18 a cord droped, limbed, bucked, and piled for the forwarder. In red pine the productivity is low with only 3 1/2 cord cut in a weekend between two guys working 8-10 hours a day. It's a low price but it's spending money and gets my foot in the door for work later on in the year cutting decent timber.

umm...u really might want to reconsider this...you are working for about $1.5/hr......its not worth it.
 
yea we know it's really not worth it but we both knew we wernt gonna make real good money on it, i'll be back to cutting sawlogs after this but right now it's just filler work, more or less just gives us something to do on the weekends.
 
How big is YOUR thumb

One thing that is different that some guys might not be aware of is, if you are bushelling in a unit for a yarder the timber is all fell ahead of time. Usually it is weeks or even months before the yarder will move in.
Each cutter will keep his own scale, usually on his hat. You fall a tree, put your mark and the tree number on the butt. Then measure and record the log lengths and diameters. After work you transfer your scale from your hat to a scale sheet and figure up what you cut. Honor system.
Trivia...... If you are a cheat, you could become known as a thumber or someone who "thumbs". When you buck a log and the cuts do not roll apart you have to hold your tape on top and eyeball vertically to get the measurement. If your thumb just so happens to be in the way, of course you have to move your head over to read the tape. Depending on how big your thumb is this can add several inches to your diameter.
Snags that are non merchantable(will not make pulp or saw logs) are paid for according to stump diameter. Some guys will go to great lengths to (needlessly) cut the lowest possible stump to get more scale.
Alaska has a lot of snags that more or less disappear when they are fell. So rotten that they will splatter and the stump can get smushed by other trees. Some guys have perfected this disappearing snag act. They are the "ghost snags." Snags that only existed on the end of their pencil. Reminds me of a song, anybody ever heard the "Snag Fallers Ball" by Craig and Terry?
 
If you are felling trees under what was called by the bushel, it was per thousand board feet.
My father worked that way for a while and did very well, too well, was making more than the office crew, they did not like that. well, then they put all the fallers on day work, 30 bucks a day. As fallers work a 6hr day, well, 5bucks and hour, and oh, by the way, be sure to bring your own saw. That was the early 50's. I remember him saying he made 1650 one month, that is when it hit the fan.
 
One thing that is different that some guys might not be aware of is, if you are bushelling in a unit for a yarder the timber is all fell ahead of time. Usually it is weeks or even months before the yarder will move in.
Each cutter will keep his own scale, usually on his hat. You fall a tree, put your mark and the tree number on the butt. Then measure and record the log lengths and diameters. After work you transfer your scale from your hat to a scale sheet and figure up what you cut. Honor system.
Trivia...... If you are a cheat, you could become known as a thumber or someone who "thumbs". When you buck a log and the cuts do not roll apart you have to hold your tape on top and eyeball vertically to get the measurement. If your thumb just so happens to be in the way, of course you have to move your head over to read the tape. Depending on how big your thumb is this can add several inches to your diameter.
Snags that are non merchantable(will not make pulp or saw logs) are paid for according to stump diameter. Some guys will go to great lengths to (needlessly) cut the lowest possible stump to get more scale.
Alaska has a lot of snags that more or less disappear when they are fell. So rotten that they will splatter and the stump can get smushed by other trees. Some guys have perfected this disappearing snag act. They are the "ghost snags." Snags that only existed on the end of their pencil. Reminds me of a song, anybody ever heard the "Snag Fallers Ball" by Craig and Terry?

LOL..."drinkin' block and tackles at Snag Faller's Ball, drinkin lots of soda pop and that ain't all"... yup. I'd sure like to find some cds of their music...my old cassette went to tape heaven years ago and I haven't been able to get a replacement.

And, in case anybody is curious, the scale on the hat and the "thumb" is right on.
 
I shall point out that when writing on hard hats, the tin ones are superior. The plastic ones just don't do! When we had too switch over, I had to start carrying a little notebook. :cry:

I'd write down the tree measurements on my old hat when cruisiing those trees that have to get dropped after the sale was sold.
 
I shall point out that when writing on hard hats, the tin ones are superior. The plastic ones just don't do! When we had too switch over, I had to start carrying a little notebook. :cry:

I'd write down the tree measurements on my old hat when cruisiing those trees that have to get dropped after the sale was sold.

What's a plastic hard hat? :greenchainsaw:
 
i was baffled by how much cooler the metal hats are than plastic in the summer!!

You ever take your hat off but your hair frozen to it?

I have a vague memory of that happening. Now my hair sticks to the velcro that our hats have. It is for sticking on those Foreign Legion type neck fire thingies. I don't do fires anymore, so it is annoying.
 
i meant 30-40 stems per hour - i didn't preview my post :monkey:

40 stems an hour is what a guy just starting out gets. I can get 100/hour on some jobs. I worked with a guy that averaged 680/day. A stem is counted as anything 8" dbh and over.

You won't make money here cutting under 300/day on a straight falling job.
 
40 stems an hour is what a guy just starting out gets. I can get 100/hour on some jobs. I worked with a guy that averaged 680/day. A stem is counted as anything 8" dbh and over.

You won't make money here cutting under 300/day on a straight falling job.

thanks for the clarification
 
40 stems an hour is what a guy just starting out gets. I can get 100/hour on some jobs. I worked with a guy that averaged 680/day. A stem is counted as anything 8" dbh and over.

You won't make money here cutting under 300/day on a straight falling job.

wow...that is alot of falling...i've never got to just fall, ive alwasy had to top.

dropping and topping 120-130 oaks and hickories in a day is about my best.
 
wow...i really don't know that i could cut that many trees in a day.... but maybe i could. i dunno, ive never done it like that
 
i've done 100 trees in a day. but it's usually no more than 75 cause of the thick briars and poison ivy. granted they were small trees (6-10" DBH) and i only had to take a step to the next one.

i do land clearing preparation on the side, keeping the trees in lead. makes it easier for the dozer or skid steer to get all the stuff into burn piles.
 
Bushel'n, Gypo'n it's all good. You have monster days and you have crappy days, but in the end I have averaged a hell of a lot more than a day wage.
Had scale checked everyday do too.
 
Bushel'n, Gypo'n it's all good. You have monster days and you have crappy days, but in the end I have averaged a hell of a lot more than a day wage.
Had scale checked everyday do too.

The last time I gypo cut for small logger he paid me really well (on a percentage). I Gave them three full sides clean with a fourth side when possible, they liked that. The potential was yours to make it vs. making some one else a hell of a lot for the day (most cases)- I like that, reward a faller for working hard and taking care of the wood.
 
The last time I gypo cut for small logger he paid me really well (on a percentage). I Gave them three full sides clean with a fourth side when possible, they liked that. The potential was yours to make it vs. making some one else a hell of a lot for the day (most cases)- I like that, reward a faller for working hard and taking care of the wood.
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Whats this mean??????????
 
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