Buying logs to cut up and sell?

[pickwood]

Ga boy-I stack fine-and always have more wood volume when done

 

[mattmc2003]

lol

 

[tomtrees58]

You will have more - - as it's impossible to restack the 3 or 4 pieces that used to make up a round as tight as it was before you split it. Hence you're gaining more space.

Al

wrong less i have sold wood four 33 years now tom trees

 

[mattmc2003]

And to add another thing, after what part of the wood is made into sawdust, and splinters from busting, and bark knocked off, there will actually be less wood...no matter how you stack it. Not much less, but still a little.

 

[biggenius29]

When I posted this I thought this was going to be a simple answer.

I was under the assumption that there would appear to be alot more wood once it was cut and split. But I see some beg to differ.

 

[hutch3912]

Truckload

I bought three truckloads of tree length firewood this summer and cut and split it all. In talking with the trucker I asked why he was selling 8 cord loads when he had a ten cord truck. He said simply that the tree length does not stack as tight as the 8ft pulp he also hauls. When all was said and done I had purchased 24 cord tree length. After cutting and splitting it all, I ended up selling 21.5 cords, stacked in the trailer to exactly a cord. If you sold loose thrown cords you might end up selling more but to me that doesn't seem right to the customer, and you'll find you will have some complaints once they stack it. Just some food for thought cause we all know the customer is always right .

 

[Moss Man]

I buy truckloads of 16' logs, 12 cord per load and run them though the firewood processor and guess what.....I get about 12 cords of cut and split wood to deliver to my customers. Can it be any more simple than that my friend? I could even let it all drop in piles on the ground and when the dust settles, I'd have about 12 cords of cut and split wood. If you don't believe it, come on up in late March and you can watch.

 

[Zodiac45]

I bought three truckloads of tree length firewood this summer and cut and split it all. In talking with the trucker I asked why he was selling 8 cord loads when he had a ten cord truck. He said simply that the tree length does not stack as tight as the 8ft pulp he also hauls. When all was said and done I had purchased 24 cord tree length. After cutting and splitting it all, I ended up selling 21.5 cords, stacked in the trailer to exactly a cord. If you sold loose thrown cords you might end up selling more but to me that doesn't seem right to the customer, and you'll find you will have some complaints once they stack it. Just some food for thought cause we all know the customer is always right .

Bingo!

I buy truckloads of 16' logs, 12 cord per load and run them though the firewood processor and guess what.....I get about 12 cords of cut and split wood to deliver to my customers. Can it be any more simple than that my friend? I could even let it all drop in piles on the ground and when the dust settles, I'd have about 12 cords of cut and split wood. If you don't believe it, come on up in late March and you can watch.

I believe you Moss, as long as all the logs are good and straight. Get any crooks in there and it goes downhill. All I'm saying is, (too the original poster) that you'll never get more than you started with tree length too cut/split. You might get the same, but more likely, if it has too go one way or the other, it's going to be less.

 

[Moss Man]

I will admit that there is a variable in the wood I purchase, it is sold to me by the ton and the logger also estimates the cords. The average for hard green hardwood is 4900 pounds per cord, that's what the paper mills use for a weight. George estimates 11-12 cors per truckload and I keep a real good tally of what I get out of it and it is pretty darn close. Maybe slightly less? Could very well be, you do have to figure in the kerf times hundeds of cuts.
opcorn:

 

[maplemeister]

I will admit that there is a variable in the wood I purchase, it is sold to me by the ton and the logger also estimates the cords. The average for hard green hardwood is 4900 pounds per cord, that's what the paper mills use for a weight. George estimates 11-12 cors per truckload and I keep a real good tally of what I get out of it and it is pretty darn close. Maybe slightly less? Could very well be, you do have to figure in the kerf times hundeds of cuts.
opcorn:

Moss:
If you are buying per a well established weight factor, and the trucker is using that weight figure in his cordage estimate, then you should be getting pretty consistent loads as far as cord count goes. That just tells me that you have an honest trucker. Down here I haven't run into anyone who delivers log length loads by weight. I have bought many in the past and it has always been the truckers estimate based on the size of his trailer. Once in a while I have received a little more than I bargained for but the majority of the time, due to crooked and twisted logs and/or sloppy loading, a 7 cord load has turned in closer to 5 1/2 or 6 cords, once it was processed and stacked. Crooked logs create a tremendous amount of dead air space that cannot be reclaimed as wood when the truck is offloaded. Just my personal experience dealing locally.

Maplemeister:

 

[CentaurG2]

I will agree with Moss Man. If you buy 10-12 cord load, after the processer get through with it, you have about 10-12 cords of wood to sell. A processer can waste a considerable amount of wood, especially if you run a wide kerf saw, a box/screen wedge and are not processing telephone poles. In my opinion, it really does not matter how tight you stack your wood, it only matters how you measure a cord when you go to sell it.