DLCRL
Organic Demolitionist Expert
It's because of issues like this that some of companies I work with will have me start the job ASAP, so that customers are bound by contract seeing as we've all ready begun and they'd like it finished.
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DLCRL
Organic Demolitionist Expert
I disagree, don't jeopardize any other jobs you may potentially receive, but go over and bid on it, but bid it high enough you can recoup your losses from last time, around here unless your way off base w/your price you'll be the one doing the storm damage, most customers are not required to get multiple bids, as removing the tree ASAP is paramount.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
Depending on what we are doing our cancelation fee can be costly. crane rentals don't like to be canceled within 24hr of the job. They charge a 4 hour minimum around here which Is usually close to 500$. If someone canceled on that day I would be looking for 650.00 which is In our contract. We have a separate one when a crane is used vs normal tree work. Crane one covers driveways rental fees and so on.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
Guy around here has a climber go with him on bids and start the work right away. I've seen the Cops removing him from a property a few times. In his online reviews the cops have been called on him alot for this as the customers say they didn't even give the go ahead yet and he starts them.
DLCRL
Organic Demolitionist Expert
I've never had that happen, we wait til we have an accord w/the homeowner but we almost always get a go ahead because customers want the tree off the house ASAP.
We're delighted to do $400 jobs. Knock off two of those in a day and we're doing fine. I'd say half our jobs are half-day jobs. One place for a few hours of prunning, then lunch and coffee and relax a bit, then another few hours doing a few takedowns somewhere else. And most of the time they are long time clients. Be hard to do groceries without those jobs.
As for "that ******", trying to collect some gas money is free. Maybe you get it, maybe you don't, but one thing you are doing is maintaining a good, polite, and business-like with a guy who still might be s future customer. And with the competition out there, it's not time wasted.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
He does it all the time not for storm work.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
Nothing wrong with 400.00 jobs anything out of town we have a 450.00 minimum. I love doing them, once we get alot of them lined up we just go knock them out with full crews and have made close to 3-4k in a day doing them.
Usually pruning pear trees stumps stuff liken that.
DLCRL
Organic Demolitionist Expert
I agree, $400 is less than hour worth of my time, so if a company I'm working with lines up a bunch that's a full day.
I think you have a bigger crew than we do.
We have a $150 minimum for local, and we up it depending on travel time. But we've shown up and it's some person who knows nothing about anything, and the ginormous tree they described on the phone is a stick and it's twenty- minutes of work. So we'll go down to $75 or whatever. I mean, you have to bend to the circumstances.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
I think you have a bigger crew than we do.
We have a $150 minimum for local, and we up it depending on travel time. But we've shown up and it's some person who knows nothing about anything, and the ginormous tree they described on the phone is a stick and it's twenty- minutes of work. So we'll go down to $75 or whatever. I mean, you have to bend to the circumstances.
Ya crew size deffinetly impacts the minimum price for companies. We run 4 man crews, sometimes two trimmers on one crew. So if you got a trimmer and three ground guys. 70$ an hour just in wages so you gotta be moving on the smaller jobs.
Alot of times if the tree is worth like 100.00 and I don't feel right chaging 450.00 I look for other work on there property to make it fair. We get alot of pear tree removals that only take like 15 min with the stump. So i just say while I'm here I'll trim your other ones up or something of that nature.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
Even do some odd stuff around the holidays. The one pine is like 60ft we put like 800ft of lights in it took half a day getting way out on the ends trying to drag reals of lights around. Frigging nightmare pulling all those lights around.
mckeetree
Addicted to ArboristSite
Knock off two of those a day and we are starving to death. Your outfit's brand of financially fool-assing around won't work for us. I've got way too much to pay for.
Since when is going to work and making enough to pay the bills "fool-assing"?
Honestly, you sound really stressed out. That's something we work very hard to avoid. That's why we made a choice to keep overhead low, remain flexible, and above all keep the stress at a minimum. It's not worth it to be unhappy all the time. We enjoy life, and we try to bring that enjoyment of life to work. Makes for a happier day.
mckeetree
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Since when is going to work and making enough to pay the bills "fool-assing"?
Honestly, you sound really stressed out. That's something we work very hard to avoid. That's why we made a choice to keep overhead low, remain flexible, and above all keep the stress at a minimum. It's not worth it to be unhappy all the time. We enjoy life, and we try to bring that enjoyment of life to work. Makes for a happier day.
That's hoser speak for "We are a low rent don't make much money just barely do enough to get by two bit operation." Of course, as many may know, I'm biased I suppose when it it comes to your under achieving and proud of it ass because of the drivel I have seen you post in the political forum over the years.
That's hoser speak for "We are a low rent don't make much money just barely do enough to get by two bit operation." Of course, as many may know, I'm biased I suppose when it it comes to your under achieving and proud of it ass because of the drivel I have seen you post in the political forum over the years.
That's okay, as long as we're still friends.
mckeetree
Addicted to ArboristSite
Even do some odd stuff around the holidays. The one pine is like 60ft we put like 800ft of lights in it took half a day getting way out on the ends trying to drag reals of lights around. Frigging nightmare pulling all those lights around.
That's a pretty sprucey looking pine.
mattfr12
The Bulldog
Around here we rarely hear anyone say spruce I think its just a regional thing. Everything is a pine, spruce, scotch, white, are all called pine by all the tree guys around here. Even the BCMA guys at Bartlett use to always just write pine on the work orders. Kinda our term for garbage tree that's gonna ruin your lanyard and climb line.
Not meaning to derail, but as a professional, one thing we should do is at least ID the tree properly and then educate the populace.
