Can't get splitter started if its under 30

[hedge hog]

Is it horizontal or vertical shaft motor ?

When you are splitting through big knots or some really nasty stuff do you notice it dropping into low gear?


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[066blaster]

Is it horizontal or vertical shaft motor ?

When you are splitting through big knots or some really nasty stuff do you notice it dropping into low gear?


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Vertical, yes it does go to low. Has a primer ,,no choke . I can't pull it over fast enough to get it to fire at all

 

[NSMaple1]

Did you try heating the pump up?

A few moments of Mr. Bernzomatic is good for that.

EDIT: And, as also mentioned earlier, if you have moisture in your oil, that will slow things down.

 

[hedge hog]

It seems to be the verticals don't last like the horizontal do
The one I worked on the shims between the gears in the pump where gone on the bottom wearing into the casting
Hope get it figured out

I have a horizontal 5.5 horsepower
13 gallon pump turned down so it won't kill motor
And can start it a 20 degrees never tried any colder than that


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[Gugi47]

Many of the members they say the Synthetic oil.
That's the answer.
Synthetic oil don't change the viscosity when is cold or hot, that's why start easy in cold weather.
After shot off the oil will stay be twine parts, don't drain all down to oil pan like the conventional oil do.
That's work for any engines includes you car, truck and diesel to.
Ooooo...and chainsaws.....

 

[pro94lt]

As it's been said, push in very slowly on the primer 5 or 6 times. Maybe 10. you can even take the air filter cover off and watch it shoot fuel down into the intake. I had trouble with mine when I first got it... with mine you don't have to pull it over fast just get it on the compression stroke if it doesn't hit push in theurope primer again

 

[066blaster]

I have not had a chance to mess with it, been busy plowing snow. I could keep it in my garage where it stays warmer
Was just kinda wondering if everyone else has this problem.

 

[GVS]

I have a spee co 21 ton splitter with a briggs engine. Its about 6 years old. I cannot get it to start when its cold out, i pulls over really hard and slow. Could i have too thick of hydro oil or engine oil?? It starts on the first or second pull when it is 40 and above.. anyone else have this problem? I have had this problem since the first winter after i bought it new

I have a 35 ton speeco/TSC with B&S engine.This is an easy starter down to well below 0*F.When I say an easy starter I mean 3 pulls on the rope max. .I've found that on these "carb compliant" engine(I have 4 of them),they want lots of choke and throttle to start even when temp. is up .I use semi syn.oil ,5W20 in the engines I use in the winter(splitter,snow blower) and AW32 hyd.oil in the splitter.I suggest you give this procedure and oil/hyd.oil a try.

 

[Guswhit]

I have a 20 HP Honda on my home made splitter that acts the same. Fortunately it is electric start so I don't have to pull it. I just can't get enough umpf to get it started when it is below 30 degrees if I let it sit outside unless I put my little battery jumper pack on. with the extra cranking amps it fires right off no matter what. I know you are speaking of a pull start, just wanted to add what I've found on my electric start for some thought. I concur with the other fellows that the oil is so thick in the colder weather that you cannot get the speed of the turn over you need to achieve combustion when pull starting.

 

[Jeff Lary]

I have in the past when needed placed a space heater in front of the engine/pump for maybe 10 min. It makes a world of difference.

 

[WhisperingCreek]

Place a small magnetic engine block heater on the hydraulic tank and plug it in a few hours before starting.

 

[tnflatbed]

Vertical, yes it does go to low. Has a primer ,,no choke . I can't pull it over fast enough to get it to fire at all

No need to pull it over as fast as you can, I found that if you pull the engine thru slowly till it wants to start then you can give er a good rip and your not wearing your self down trying to start. Another trick that has helped is if its cold natured is try pulling it thru with the hydraulic lever pulled it helps take some of the load off.

 

[lindnova]

Synthetic 5w30 or a 0w in the engine. If you always use it in cold weather might need to switch to ATF instead of AW46 most speeco's come with per the owners manual.

It is real hard to get those engines to turn over fast enough when cold with all the fluid drag. I have the luxury of warming it up in the garage now, but have struggled in the cold starting one a few years ago. Always started - prime 5 times, give a few pulls and if it didn't start prime some more. Better to prime less at first than flood the engine. Magnetic block heater is a great idea.

 

[merc_man]

Would a magnetic block heater on side of oil tank help?

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[NSMaple1]

My splitter hydro tank has ATF in it.

Per factory specs.

 

[sb47]

I have the same splitter with the same motor.
First year I stored it, it wouldn't start the next year.
I didn't have time to mess with it so I had it fixed at a shop.
Cost me 80 bucks for them to install a carb kit.
The next year I stored it with no gas at all. The next season it wouldn't start again.
I asked how much for a new carb. 30 bucks.
Ten years later and many hundreds of cords later, she still running.
She's a smoker, but she runs.
Last year I put a hour meter on it and in just one season, I've put over 300 hours on it.
I have no idea how many it actually has.
I use Dullo or Rotella 20 w 50 No starting issues after I replaced the carb.

 

[tla100]

Yeah my homebuilt splitter is a PITA to start cold. Seems hydraulic fluid has too much drag to get crank rolling fast enough to pop. Leave in garage overnight if i need to split next day

 

[sb47]

Yeah my homebuilt splitter is a PITA to start cold. Seems hydraulic fluid has too much drag to get crank rolling fast enough to pop. Leave in garage overnight if i need to split next day

I live in the south so cold weather is not an issue. When our hydroponic equipment is cold, everything operates a little slow and seems weak until the oil warms up. Do they make a cold weather hydroponic oil?

 

[tla100]

I live in the south so cold weather is not an issue. When our hydroponic equipment is cold, everything operates a little slow and seems weak until the oil warms up. Do they make a cold weather hydroponic oil?

Well, I just used off the shelf 5 gallon bucket of hydraulic oil. Really dont see much for cold weather fluid up here. The guy that posted above using ATF would probably be the way to go.

I let me skidloader run about 5 minutes if I can, before moving it, or take it really easy for first few minutes and not push it. Can't say any farmers around here switch fluid out in winter. Dad in law use to add diesel fuel to old JD 620 if was getting cold out.

 

[mga]

invest in an electric start.