Chaps

[Husky288XP]

Which chap material is better, a chap with kevlar or 1000 Denier cordura nylon? I have 1000 Denier cordura nylon ones now, but I am buying new ones for the crew and wondering which type to get.

 

[Joey P]

Labonville Kevlar-Poly Chaps beat out everyother competitor as far as stopping power goes. So I would say Kevlar-Poly Chaps.

 

[ROLLACOSTA]

Originally posted by Husky288XP
Which chap material is better, a chap with kevlar or 1000 Denier cordura nylon? I have 1000 Denier cordura nylon ones now, but I am buying new ones for the crew and wondering which type to get.

just curious dont your guys supply there own ppe??

 

[Husky288XP]

Most of them do, but I buy some just for extras to keep in the truck. Plus, I usually get a good deal on them for the sales rep at Grainger. You can never have enough PPE.

 

[dbeck]

I may be wrong, but if something is required by regulation is it not regulation that the employer has to supply it? He/she does not have to buy the most extravagant equipment, but it has to at least meet min. requirements?

 

[dbeck]

while we are on this topic, who wears chap pants while climbing? Most people complain about them being too hot. My main point is, which pants are the most durable/comfartable? Maybe this should be a poll?

 

[Husky288XP]

When it comes to safety I would rather spend the extra money than lose an employee, and lose even more money.

 

[dbeck]

Most definitely! I failed to mention that I have for the past three years, but my boss won't because they are too hot. Pretty sad...
I think every climber should be wearing them. And grond guys for that reason...that would alleviate people making "just one cut" w/o putting them on.

 

[NeTree]

i use chaps on the ground, but never when climbing. Been thinking of trying the pant-style, but haven't gotten a round tuit yet.

 

[dbeck]

I would add that the pants are qiute comfortable...think of the times that you use your knee for positioning...the kevlar padding is like a fluffly pillow. Cheper version, fresco approx $70.

 

[PRUNER 1]

over here in good old blighty, we have to wear full protection when climbing. yeh too hot in summer, but wouldnt you rather sweat a bit than lose a limb!(no pun intended) if you get to hot have rest and a drink. i cant understand why people, even those that say they are pro's and know what they are doing, dont wear protection just coz they dont have to. fact of life, accidents happen even if you are a pro. think about it! would you drive down the road without your seatbelt on just coz youve never had an accident before? wise up and protect yo'self. sorry for rant but this bothers me!

 

[Lumberjack]

Originally posted by PRUNER 1
over here in good old blighty, we have to wear full protection when climbing. yeh too hot in summer, but wouldnt you rather sweat a bit than lose a limb!(no pun intended) if you get to hot have rest and a drink. i cant understand why people, even those that say they are pro's and know what they are doing, dont wear protection just coz they dont have to. fact of life, accidents happen even if you are a pro. think about it! would you drive down the road without your seatbelt on just coz youve never had an accident before? wise up and protect yo'self. sorry for rant but this bothers me!

With that mentality, why not use a handsaw instead of a chainsaw? There is a point when PPE becomes excessive.

 

[jamie]

to right

i have said that i wear mine just in case the possibility that i get complacent and accidentally make a mistake and the saw uncontrollably sinks into my thigh.....

basically i will try not to but it may just happen.....hope not.....

having said that our lead climber was telling me that he cocked up and his trousers stopped a 371 at full bore......would jeans?

jamie

 

[Lumberjack]

No, jeans wouldnt. How did he get that story? (what was the situation?)

 

[jamie]

situation

what was the situation, he stuck the saw in his trousers..... dont know the ins and outs, it was before i was with the company.....the point i was trying to get over was would jeans have stopped the saw???? he is ok, leg still in one piece....

having said that my boss stuck an old pair of boots in a vice and the say chewed its way through them (they are the still comfort/concept boots, not really to sure but they are brown)

jamie

 

[Lumberjack]

Not bein smart arse, but it sounds like an operator error. Using a saw that size aloft, the operator should be in the best position available, and shouldnt try to move from that postion till the chainsaw is off. When I have to use large saws while aloft, I set my climbing rope, set the lanyard, and kick my spikes in hard. Then crank the saw. Make the cut, kill the saw, and hang it back on the saddle.

(retorical) What was the saw doing near his leg?

Bet he had to change his drawers after that one.

 

[jamie]

eh

sorry he was on the ground at the time..... forgot to say that bit.....

just a safety point i was trying to get accross, he is a good cutter but even the good make mistakes

jamie

 

[Lumberjack]

ANSI says that for all chainsaw operations on the ground, chaps shall be worn.

True tho, even the best mess up.

 

[Base]

persoanlly i wear sip all rounds i have always climbed wearing neccassary ppe to keep mr health and safety quiet as occasionally he does pop up on work sites, i have a friend of a friend that recently got fined £1000 for using a top handled on the ground....... so with incidents like these arrising you can see why so many uk arb people are a little anal about ppe, plus lets face it most of the time its not too hot for ppe only on occasions, but for some of you folks over the pond i can appreciate that its just to hot to contemplate wearing anything like sip all rounds, i had a disscussion with a safety officer once about ppe and asked about heat exhaustion, and basically if you are working in very hot conditions then you can write it into your risk assessment that ppe may cause more risk to the worker, thus getting away without chainsaw trousers, saying that i will always wear sip allrounds whilst doing chainsaw work as i have seen someone with a chainsaw wound and it was not pleasant to say the least.......hmmm gone off topic a little but i would recommend kevlar lined

 

[PRUNER 1]

i went to the apf at zetland when i was at college back in 99, i counted around about 15 blokes with missing limbs. i knew then that saws were not to be messed with or taken for granted. i wear stihl kneflex and they are sweet. so easy to climb in and you forget they are on. ive uaed all sorts of pants but these are def the best until the stretch airs get ce cert for class 1