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[sgreanbeans]

yesterday I was up un a very large elm, when I discoverd 3 broken branches. I didnt see them from the ground when I bid this job but that happens! They were all resting on eachother. so after looking a bit I decided to take them all together! I ran my line thru a false crotch and then counterd the angle by running it thru a crotch that would make them swing down to a clear drop area over the garage, then i took 2 slings with bingers and choked 2 or them, took my hand line and choked it to the 3rd then hooked the 2 slings to my hand line. as this tree is over a very old garage/shed I coudnt let them run very far so we pulled up real tight and cut them loose. They rolled as they fell but then hung nicely from the rope. I boomed down and cleared the brush and then the meat , ground man lowerd the rest of them down using a porta wrap to my wife who was on the garage, then she steered them to the ground, no she wasnt in the way when I dropped them!, Just wondering if this a common situation with all of you, This is the first time i have dropped multiple branches at the same time.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I do it frequently using web slings, especialy over structures.

You can do this with small stuf that you dont want to pitch but clipping on to a redirected line, then take off the redirect so the groundie can pull up on the rope. Make sure there is enough weight to defeat any friction.

Now if you had a GRCS you could ahve had the wife crank up and pick the branches off .

 

[sgreanbeans]

john paul! yesterday during all this i stopped to get a drink and told her about that! and she just rolled her eyes and said
" why dont you just call sherill and order the whole catalog!"

Green light means go!

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Yes, may I talk to Tobey please?

Well I know he is buissy but I want one of everything and want to know what deals he can give me.

 

[Dave]

Bean- If I were you, I would do as my wife told me to do You don't want her thinking you don't listen!

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

What kind of knot do you tie to hold the slings together?

 

[treeclimber165]

Mike,
I believe he used a running bowline to tie the one limb, and 'biners to clip the other two to the rope above the knot. At least that is the way I would do it.
Good Job, Bean!
I just cut down two very dead pine trees today, they were leaning over a house and another tree. Rigged them both from a third pine about 8-10 feet away, worked out perfectly. I even tied into the live pine while working the first dead tree. It was cracking at the base, it had been dead so long. Probably wouldn't have held my weight!

 

[treeman82]

I love being able to take more than one branch at a time. I just go, take a nice long tail, put a clove hitch in my first piece with a half hitch, go to my second branch and do the same thing, then go to my last branch and either do a clove hitch or a running bowline. After that start cutting, last tied = first cut. Lots faster than taking one at a time. Been doin it this way as much as I could for over a year.

 

[Kneejerk Bombas]

Then the ground man has to untie a bunch of knots, or in treeclimber165's case, untie then retie to send straps back, then the climber has to untie then retie for next bunch.

 

[treeclimber165]

Mike,
Yup, but it is easier doing 3 at once than one at a time. Running bowlines are fast to tie and untie if you have done it a few times (or a few thousand times ). 'Biners are easier and even faster to use, if you happen to have a few.
This is just ONE of a thousand reasons why it is important to have a qualified groundman. A good climber is only one part of a successful team. A top notch groundman will earn you $$$MONEY$$$ if paired with a decent climber.

 

[sgreanbeans]

what i did was,
i used 2 slings with screw locking biners already tied to them. i have a loop tied into the end of my hand line, i choked 2 of the branches with the sling , i put another biner in the loop and double wraped the 3rd branch and hooked in using the biner then cliped the other 2 into the 3rd. hope this helps!

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

Slings of different length, wound up, clipped to a rack on my chest.

Lowering line has a heavy 'biner on a fishemans. I can connect many slings to one 'biner.

Groundies wind the slings up as they take them off and send them up when I call for them, or if I am moving they clip a bunch onto the lowering line. Sometimes I just have them leave a sling on the line as they send it up.

Slings are girth hitched to branches.

Buddy of mine took it a step further, had a connection that would not reach so he trough a butterfly in the line and clipped another biner into it.

If the block is too close I'll take a few wraps on the branch and clip on to itself, have the ground keep it thight.

 

[seanlarkin]

That's funny about the wife. It reminds me of a conversation I had with Greg Good at TCI. I was asking him about sales at the show, and he said there was much interest, and most of the guys ended up saying something along the lines of "I'm sold, but now I have to call my wife and ask her." I told Greg he should print up some permission slips to hand to the guys as a joke.
As far as the GRCS goes, I can say with a very high degree of certainty that it won't go back on sale again soon, so please give this sale some serious thought while it's here. We are extending the sale until January 11, due to the very late distribution of TCI magazine this month.
Take care and have a great holiday everyone!
-Sean

 

[treeman82]

Sean- Did they raffle off a chipper again? If so the person who won it, where was he / she from? A guy over by me won the Wood Chuck a few years back.... He sold it real fast.

 

[seanlarkin]

I don't know if they raffled off a chipper or not. I didn't hear anything about it, but then again, I was pretty busy with my work, so I may just have not noticed.
-Sean

 

[TheTreeSpyder]

i keep a double-bowline w/yosemite tied in the end of the rigging line all day and constantly 'biner into it with a pre-set sling/ 'biner combo.

For multiple branches i can hitch 1 or more to this eye(serving as a positive mechanical stop for the rest), and several to the line leading to the eye also. But, over time i have pushed this further; i can drop several into the line first (into the taut basket from the anchor to the limb hitched at the eye) and use their weighted pull on the line to help pull the load on the eye out and around from an obstacle by where it is hitched to the limb and how you knotch it to pivot around! The weight in this basket will only exert 1/2 its pull on the target limb; but 2x as fast when pulling it out; so this must be scheduled into the mix.

Another sling trick; is if you are lowerring something and the head gets hung up (cuz you were pushing the limit too close!); i choke off another limb; hitch it to the cut side of hung limb; and cut the secondary limb so that it becomes a counterbalance to 'lighten' the hung up head of the primary. Of course the rigging line must be taut so that the hitch point acts as a pivot point for this machine, also the further back you hitch the secondary limb on the primary one from its hitch the more leverage you wil have for lifting the head out of the jam.

-KC

 

[Rob Murphy]

KC
How do you do it man?? Where do you get such ideas for rigging? How long you been doing this stuff? I just get a bit stunned when I read your posts.
Carefull now I dont want you to get a swelled head, might be a bit hard to haul up the trees.

 

[John Paul Sanborn]

I did that once, used another limb to male the but end heavy when I made it a little ballanced. I girthed the sling onto the branch then used a 'biner to clip it to the load which had another sling girthed to it. Cut several limbs and clipped them on until the butt end went down. One thing I like about having the rack of slings across my chest.