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Im wanting to install one as well. I cant put it in the basement, because my was is built on a concrete slab. I think Im going to put it in the laundry room, and pipe the heat up into the attic through insulated pipe, and duct it 20 feet and down into the propane furnace. The flue will be a straight shot up through the roof.
 
Im wanting to install one as well. I cant put it in the basement, because my was is built on a concrete slab. I think Im going to put it in the laundry room, and pipe the heat up into the attic through insulated pipe, and duct it 20 feet and down into the propane furnace. The flue will be a straight shot up through the roof.

Mine is on the front porch (enclosed) I ran 2 return ducts (8") into the kitchen and utility room and a 12" duct into the basement (about 20') with electronic dampers tied into the limit switch on the wood furnace and the fan switch on the gas furnace so if the limit switch onthe wood unit is "on" the damper opens to allow heat into the main ductwork and it the fan on the gas unit comes on the other damper opens to allow heat from it into the main duct work. it works well I should have used a larger pipe for the heat to the main duct work though.
 
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i bought a 1600m from trc supply, it was quite a job installing it because my house has a boiler, so i had to cut registers in all the floors and run cold air returns up and downstairs, put in a stainless chimney-duravent 6". ive been running it for a month and a half, puts out a nice mild heat luved it, put a whole house humidifier on it, that made all the difference in comfort! 55 percent humidity constantly! im expe3riencing my first problems with excess creosote build up, i was noticing the draft was starting to slow down as time went on when you open the feed door more and more smoke would come out. wood is hardwood 2 years old , not green, decided to check the chimney and found it to be plugged solid! im pretty sure this is being caused by loading the box up with wood and then closing the damper, this keeps the heat in the stove but doesnt heat up the pipe enough- anyone else having this type of problem? also after cleaning the chimney with brushes, and reasembling, i went to start it up again and it keeps filling the house up with smoke- geez i cant win! ive even tried putting a little torpedo propane space heater in the door to heat up the pipes and get a good draft goin, same thing, reverse draft filled the house with smoke! im beginning to lose confid. in the safety, it ran for a month and a hlf no problem- now?:confused:
 
I ran mine all last winter and all was fine. Started it up this spring after cleaning the flue pipe and was gonna clean the outside brick chimney later. Well, like you, smoke filled the basement and house.

I assumed it was a squirrels nest as I have had one on my other chimney before. I had to get my cherry picker in to clean the chimney and the neighbor wasn't home(needed to use their driveway).

We finally got to it and I started adding rods until I got to a blockage. I told my assistant in the house to watch out for a squirrel or leaves coming down. Well, no movement at all of the nest and I thought it was compacted real bad. I then rammed it with the rods alone (no brush) and got some breakthrough. It was a homeowner's garbage can full of creasote finally and it was just about 6 to 8 feet above the flue pipe. Seemed unusual to me like yours.

I am cleaning 2 times this year to avert the same prob. But you with just a month and a half and blockage and seasoned wood....that seems real odd.

I give mine a real good "cookout" at least once a day. Good luck and keep us posted how you work this out. I am interested.:popcorn:
 
I clean my 1600M out twice a year...fall before I start burning and once in the middle of January , weather permitting.


I did it about 10 days ago when the temps where in the mid-40's here in Cincy... the amount of creosote would fit in the palm of one hand.

I heat 100% with wood and burn around 4 1/2 cord a year , I had about 80% Red Oak and the remainder a mix of Elm and Hard Maple.... one full year split and seasoned.


huskyproguy.. those smoldering fires save a little wood but can produce dangerous build-up as you found out. The last five years I've heated with this unit the creosote I've cleaned out wouldn't fill a small coffee can.
 
Sounds like you do not need a twice a year clean out. I burn green wood mixed in as I sell wood and do not have much space to stock pile and have to take tree work as a priority (hurricane this year). No biggie if the chimney is cleaned out.

I am wondering if he may be burning at the beginning with the top exit wide open and all the air flow wide open on the bottom (including the shaker and ash door). You could almost ignite a piece of steel when sitting on coals if this is done.

Then maybe it is completely banked down instead of gradually? Closing the bottom air feeds and closing the top re direct all of a sudden? This would likely even give creasote? If 2 year oak is piled under other wood for 2 years, it may not season all the way? Just a few thoughts.
 
thanks for the input everyone

well i got it going again, thanks to bits and pieces from everyone on this site!
vet ithink it was you telling me about the hard blockage at the bottom of your pipe and you had to pound through it, kinda same thing was going on with me, i went back to the chimmney again even though i swore i cleaned it like new, this time i took the cleanout cover off the bottom of the "t" and put a halogen light in there so icould make sure it was clean, went up on the roof looked down in and could barely see the light, just a hole about a finger wide. what happened was when i sweeped all the thick stuff down it created a shelf of hard packed creosote on the lip of the "t" , i was pushing it down and it sounded just like it was bottoming out on bare metal. like you said i took the pole end of the sweep and rammed it about five times and it broke loose and all came out the clean out!

the second idea i got from people on this forum is the simpson ss duravent chiney i installed, several people say that this piping is notorious for causing backdrafting. im thinking this is causing my creosote build up because the holes on the outer shell of the pipe actually was drawing the cold air and somtimes smoke, from the top of the chimney. when i say this i mean there was cold air blowing into the basement through the holes so hard that you couldnt keep a match lit near the pipe! thus all the cold air was not letting the pipe get up to temperature, always had thick smoke pouring out the top of the chimney, even with the flus open and fire roaring. the outside of the pipe was always ice cold even though the fire was hot, now keep in mind the pipe goes out the concrete foundation wall 3' horizontily (with about 4" steady pitch) then the "t" with a cleanout is outside the house and has about 15' high pipe.(there was no where to run it straight up through the house) so what ive done now, is taken some insulation and plugged the holes where it comes into the basement, and went up on the roof, removed the cap and plugged the slotted holes on the outer shell of the ss pipe reinstalled cap. now i go back in the house to check, no more cold air backdrafting, checked the draft in the stove, lit a wooden blue tip and the draft is so strong the match is sucked right out! (thats still with no fire) so now im thinking i got it ####ed! i start a fire, she run hot and not a puff of smoke, u can feel the draft being sucked in the draft control! now this is all happening with my outside temp being 6 degrees with winds that feel like 10 below, i went outside an hour later to feel the pipe to see if the insulation in the holes worked, and the pipe was warm to the touch, smoke was barely seen coming out the cap, not thick smokey and stinking of creosote as it usually did.
so --- im sure theres an engineer out there somewhere that designed this pipe this way for a reason.... probly for going through the floors and through the attic and out the roof the ventilation would keep the pipe cool....... but using it outside with the hole open doesnt work so great! in a week or two ill check for build up again let u know how it goes! thanks for everyones input, it helped me solve the problems! if anyone has done this and had problems result from plugging the holes(ya know like your house burnt down?) let me know! thanks! :cheers:
 
I thought Dura-Vent was for direct vent gas heaters, where combustion air is supplied via the outer tube.

I believe what you should have used is Dura-Liner where the gap between walls are insulation packed. I cleaned my Dura-Liner for the first time in four years and got a half-coffee-can's worth of dust.
 
I just installed mine and love it! It got down to-20 last night but a cozy 72 in the house. What brand and type of humidifier did you install ? Selling factor for me was that it was on sale for 1384.00 to me it seemed like a no brain-er. The stove replaced a Johnson energy systems 7900.
 
owb

Soryy ro get in so late, I've got a hot blast, very similar. Had to put it outside as we have no basement. Ducted straight into end of main duct.
I built a small metal building over it. Of course that way the chimney pipe isn't much of a problem as it stands alone and doesn't touch the house. I'm sure I lose valuable heat this way, but had no other choices..Heats great if I can just keep it fed.....Lanny
 
I think I made the right choice

Dave,

Well, after spending the morning on the internet reading specs and reviews, and two hours split between two different Tractor Supply Company stores, I finally ended up deciding on the 1557M wood burner from US Stove Co. :clap:

I know we had spoke at length about the 1600M, but between not finding one close by (nearest one was 230 miles away in Indiana according to the Sandusky TSC), and having read great reviews on the 1557, I decided on that unit. They had one left at TSC in Fremont, about 25 miles away from me. The retail at that store was $1,199. But it was on sale for $976.65. After the last two months of RIDICULOUS electric bills from baseboard heat on one side of the house, and the high cost of yet another propane fill, I can't wait to get this thing up and running.

I can't say enough good things about the wonderful people on this site and all the information I have gleaned thus far is invaluable to me. I am certain I will have more questions as I progress with my installation, and I thank everyone in advance for their help. And thank you, Dave, for taking time to help me.

Looking forward to talking again soon.

Brian
 
Brian, I think the 1557M is the same stove owned by Lanny (Hotblast) in the post prior to yours. Sounds like you got a great deal. Keep us posted and give us a pict if you feel like it.
 
It's gonna be fun

I will absolutely keep you posted. I look forward to the installation. It's going to be a challange!:)
 

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