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That was a big pick! I have little crane expereince, should that thing pop like that? Thought it would be a little smoother. I was going to have Prentice come down and I was going to get a crane so he could show me the tricks, but that didnt happen :(
 
That was a big pick! I have little crane expereince, should that thing pop like that? Thought it would be a little smoother. I was going to have Prentice come down and I was going to get a crane so he could show me the tricks, but that didnt happen :(

No way it should pop like that. The crane op was winching up too hard.
 
Think I would have gone with a smaller crane and taken it in a few pieces. Being a tough guy got him in over his head I think.
 
The guy that first taught me crane work would have me make a jig cut then spike down a few feet while he snapped it off for that very reason.
 
I would have rather had my bar get pinched and had to tell the crane op to go up a little then have it jump at me like that. Besides, I would have taken that in a couple piece.
 
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Scary, a little more bounce and he'd of been squashed like a bug.
 
ya the crane operator had way to much pretension on that thing but you almost can't blame him i can't say i would feel good about cutting that piece i can say i actually wouldn't do it its just to hard to judge the weight with all those branches still left on. he was probably guessing the weight closer to 25k and it was 18k the weight 18k I'm getting was from what was in the subtitle but their was definitely a little to much and he was also standing on the wrong side of the log to have it strapped like that. i know you can't see the straps to well

but the tree always kicks out to the side where the tail of the strap that runs to the hook and with no balancers with long branches like that its just asking for disaster. if my company had a crane like that and they did that everyone their would be fired even if it worked nobody gets anywhere in life from taking risks like that and also beating your equipment its really bad for you boom and winch to get it hoping like that.
 
Scary, a little more bounce and he'd of been squashed like a bug.

ya its just not smart i would have picked 6k logs all the way down with one branch on them at a time only need one spider leg and one strap its just the smart thing to do. anyone that does that kinda of stuff is gonna wind up in jail or dead. gonna kill someone by toppling a crane. or get smushed.

I've used a 99 ton crane a lot and have never had more than 9 thousand pounds and thats a big log 9k is an impressive piece of maple or oak. i use my own straps and a strap that will hold 9k is around 300-400.00 for quality stuff. because if i plan on lifting nine i want a strap rated closer to 14-15 in the choke thats just how i roll overkill is the way to go.
 
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No way it should pop like that. The crane op was winching up too hard.


i think someone was telling him to spool up because notice the wedges I've never had to use wedges to cut like that that means its out of line or he needs to put more stick out because its pulling back at the crane. that right their can tell you where the ass is gonna wanna go the way it is tensioned.

im guessing they thought the cut was all the way through and when he tightened up he never took some back off before he finished the cut.
 
i think someone was telling him to spool up because notice the wedges I've never had to use wedges to cut like that that means its out of line or he needs to put more stick out because its pulling back at the crane. that right their can tell you where the ass is gonna wanna go the way it is tensioned.

im guessing they thought the cut was all the way through and when he tightened up he never took some back off before he finished the cut.

this is what happens when the cutter doesn't know what he is doing and the crane op doesn't have experiance with tree work. shame to subject a 90 t crane to that abuse, and to endanger the cutter and his helper. only person with ppe was the truck driver and he was out of the firing line! monster branches with no balancers probably swung around and smashed into the A2B cable going up boom. poor examples on all levels.
 
Last time I had an expression on my face like that was when I was severly constipated. I am surprised the crane held on the bounce. Pounding wedges? Oh that's not a good sign.

but its quite impressive to see a machine that can yo yo something like that
 
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Last time I had an expression on my face like that was when I was severly constipated. I am surprised the crane held on the bounce. Pounding wedges? Oh that's not a good sign.

but its quite impressive to see a machine that can yo yo something like that

No kidding! that thing was big.
 
Good thing he wasn't gaffed in up in the tree when that happened. That was a big piece of wood.
I am still a novice at crane work(but getting more experience all the time)and I am lucky to get to work with experienced skilled operators who teach and look out for me when I am in the tree. I think inexperience at crane work, and a crane op inexperience at tree work almost ended badly. Glad it ended well.
 
here's another fine example of some "precision" crane work that someone posted in the video forum. Actually the second video is just as entertaining

http://www.arboristsite.com/tree-care-videos/187376.htm

Omg dude that is embarrassing i almost don't know what to say. if thats how your picking with a crane you gotta know your not doing something right. and truthfully its not rocket science you don't have to have an engineering degree to know how to balance a load. i cannot believe the guy just didn't fold the crane up and go.

i would not post anything like that for the public to view my dog would know that some jack tard is doing that. man thats bad.

look at the giant peels on the branches when their coming down from the crane tearing them off. I'm am pretty amazed that most crane companies will go out with guys like this. huge risk.

look at how he's spiking looks like its his first day hugging the trunk and jammin them in like he's trying to strike oil. i bet the crane operator retired after that or almost died of a heart attack from the stress of that crane hopping around like that.

the real fact is the guy just don't know how to do it i mean common how easy is it to tie above the hook and walk out on those limbs and put another choker you have the best TIP money can buy.
 
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here's another fine example of some "precision" crane work that someone posted in the video forum. Actually the second video is just as entertaining

http://www.arboristsite.com/tree-care-videos/187376.htm
Holy cow! Thats why I want one of you homeboys next to me when I start doing it! I know I don't know jack! Just gotta find me a crane Co that I trust, I tried one this summer, but the guy didn't know what he was doing, scared me to death. Stuff flipping over when it comes away from the tree, pretty sure that not right! The only crane Co that has a good rep in my area, wont do tree work. They had to many bad experiences with stuff like that vid. So I guess I have to wait until I can buy one and get one of you guys down to show me the ropes (pun intended)!
 
The OP's video was a clear case of F ups all the way round. You can guess even without looking that the tree was rigged with chain or rope and choked on the back cut side, so all the lift was pulling it off to the side. It wasn't too big of a take for the crane, but when you're going to do big picks like that you need to balance your rigging carefully, and have multiple rig points. 2 or 3 tie ins would have been fine. There are some self balancing ways of rigging these also, having a rope through a porty rigged off the crane as the second point so a groundy can adjust it for example. I dont think the crane op had too much pretension, it as just the angle of the rigging. That is a sign of lack of experience on behalf of the crane op though.

I've done lifts up to 80T Heavy equipment, not trees) with a couple 220T cranes, at the limit of lift on both cranes because the lift was so far from the cranes. You need to do lift studies and carefully balance your rigging on large or heavy lifts.

I prefer working with crane operators with experience, and prefer older guys because they have patience. Crane tree work can be slow, and young guys get impatient and jump the gun sometimes. When dealing with an op who is a bit trigger happy on the cable I use them as a static point and have them leave the jib of to the side. I rig, then fall the tree onto the line with minimal slack so as not to shock load. Then they can take up. No need for preload that way. The same rules for rigging apply no matter whether you're using a crane, a GRCS , a porty or a handheld rope.

Shaun
 
here's another fine example of some "precision" crane work that someone posted in the video forum. Actually the second video is just as entertaining

http://www.arboristsite.com/tree-care-videos/187376.htm

He climbs like FTA when he's getting in/out of his gay shark tank basket! Nice one handing, at least if he's going to one hand, don't do it as cowboy like! lol! I like his groundies PPE as well. Or lack of it!
 
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