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Jeff
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Dangerous Trees
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Rftreeman
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pumpkin or pa con....Pie?
Jeff
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since ya'll talking about the size of your wood, here's one of our trees, it's located on private property that I did some other tree work on, where the guy has his hand at the tree is 6' 9" diameter, he was holding the end of the string we used to measure the circumference to figure the dia...
Nice stick; at one time there were many now they're fewer mature specimen's.
Ropes.....just because your state uses a million illegal immigrants to go out & size check trees doesnt mean that other states dont have tree(s) just as big!
Your using a crane does not impress me ole boy.....anybody who has been in this trade any length of time has done big trees!!...who gives a crap? I did an elm removal as an apprentice in the Osbourne Pa area that was ranked in the Arborists Bi-centenial.......it was 16 ft DBH, over 95 ft tall and had a spread that made a truck stop working girl look like nothing!!! & to boot...the utility ran a 13.2 single phase through the middle of it!! Yes, I was scared!!
If for any reason you think we only do bushes here.....you are sadly mistaken, if that was the case the homeowners would do it their self, funny how I always get some big ugly thing & btw.....even if its 60, 70 or 80 ft tall...I can still remove it with a 50 ft bucket.....ck out some of my pics big boy!! I dont jump out n climb unless its over 70+ ft depending on setup of course!!
personally I hate posts like this....who really gives a **** how big of trees we say we do on here......as long as we make it home safe!! some how safety turned into chest thumping...........funny how it just proved my point from an earlier post!!
LXT............
Your using a crane does not impress me ole boy.....anybody who has been in this trade any length of time has done big trees!!...who gives a crap? I did an elm removal as an apprentice in the Osbourne Pa area that was ranked in the Arborists Bi-centenial.......it was 16 ft DBH, over 95 ft tall and had a spread that made a truck stop working girl look like nothing!!! & to boot...the utility ran a 13.2 single phase through the middle of it!! Yes, I was scared!!
If for any reason you think we only do bushes here.....you are sadly mistaken, if that was the case the homeowners would do it their self, funny how I always get some big ugly thing & btw.....even if its 60, 70 or 80 ft tall...I can still remove it with a 50 ft bucket.....ck out some of my pics big boy!! I dont jump out n climb unless its over 70+ ft depending on setup of course!!
personally I hate posts like this....who really gives a **** how big of trees we say we do on here......as long as we make it home safe!! some how safety turned into chest thumping...........funny how it just proved my point from an earlier post!!
LXT............
ropensaddle
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Lexie,lexie,lexie I know ya gots some big uns bro; its just I believe they are a bit more scattered. I have worked in many states including In,Mi,Tx,Mo,Ks,Ok,Ne,Ohio and I see more tall timber here on a daily basis. I don't mean to chest beat bud just explain myself.
Safety is what started your bickering and the fact that I said through education,experience ,equipment much of the danger can be eliminated and you came out saying otherwise. Go back a read it and you will see it did not start as chest beating anyway. I have never used a crane on my own work or in power line work. The only crane job I have done was for a local guy who needed help! I was pointing out that many would have needed the crane for the job my 47 year old ass did. Anyway friend here is to them bushes bro
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Rftreeman
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Believe it or not I actually got paid a little more than the others and got a company truck to drive home but they knew they could depend on me to get it done...once I made GF I still had to do a couple myself till I got someone that was eager to learn and not a chicken **** and I trained him....I was a trim crew foreman ten years, then Danger tree expert 13; as danger tree foreman they gave me all the ones regular crews would tear the lines down on! I basically got screwed, as; the money was not worth the added responsibility. I made maybe fifty cent more per hour
ropensaddle
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I had new truck to drive and many things I miss from them days. However money was not part of that. It always amazes me at what people think is money. two decades I expect more than 15 per hour did not mean they paid it though. Gf is for the relatives around here. I was basically as far as I would go there and is why amongst other reasons I am now trying my own gig.
Rftreeman
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I gave up the GF after a couple years due to the freaking politics of the job and been on my own since they laid us off jan 2007..
I am assuming you meant scared of what?? I know....your not scared of any tree/situation aloft...................which is pure BS. BTW...I was like 19 or 20 & only had going on 2yrs in the trade.
let me see..........those who cant....become GF`s, yeah thats right, RF.. you are a funny man, arent you the one that got roasted for being a little on the large side? Hey if you have no fear as you self proclaim.....C`mon up big boy!! I got a nice sycamore needing done Im figuring its every bit of 120ft...gothic bastid, You and I can can play in the crown....then take off the lead over the house & service wires connected to the pole of a 3 phase 23 line with a 3 can stack of transformers...
we`ll see if your palms shake?? Im betting when Im done with ya you`ll have a diaper load to take back to the land of sand....
I love guys who arent afraid......funny, like I said in another post, I hire someone whos mouth overloads their candy azz (much like you) by talking big....then on the job they deliver small, where are your pic`s RF......Id like to see you in action, doesnt matter doing what.....just show us you atleast do trees!!
LXT............
Rftreeman
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Why is it so hard for you to believe that I'm not and never have been a chicken **** like you, that 3 phase 120 feet tall crap doesn't bother me, I'm not scared of heights and respect the power lines because I know what will happen if I didn't, a couple times I had to remove trees 10" or more in dia that had grown up between the 3 phase 23k lines and when the power crew got there to kill the power I was already done and I'm not sure what you mean by "roasted for being a little on the large size" cause when I worked for the company I was well under 220 plus I can still do it if I need to and did do it as a GF and a crew foreman as well as a trainee and was never scared, if this work scares you you are in the wrong ####ing business, maybe I'll buy stock in a bleach company cause I'm getting the impression that your wife uses a lot of the stuff or do you just buy new panties after you soil them and get them all wadded up....I had a little respect for you at one time but that has gone out with the last pair of panties you soiled.....if I did come join you all you'd do is craw inside my pocket so you could learn a little.....as for pictures, I'll tell you like I did the last smart ass, I don't have **** to prove to you or anyone else here, no one here pays me so the only people I need to prove it to are the people that pay me good money to do what scares the hell out of you.....
god bless you and happy new year........
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Rickytree
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There's a big dfference if the trees were getting climbed or taken down with a bucket.
As far as doing it now, ya sure you could you just have to order the XXX large Sumo Saddle for your fatass!! Ya remember mee .. Tough Guy!
Rftreeman
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you still throwing temper tantrums over the ground man getting a tip that he deserved more than you probably did, anyone that has to listen to you cry all day deserves a tip......
as far as bucket vs climbing, a majority of my time was/is climbing.....
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Some dangers can't be seen ...
I finally took that tree down today. It's been a week of bitter cold and the job took about twice as long as I planned. When I bid the job it was pleasant Fall weather.
I technicaled the heck out of that one. I parked my dump truck under it and put a 40' ladder in the bed. I only got on the ladder after I supported the major limb with my lowering rope, and tied the ladder onto the limb. Only then did I get on it (from the top) and used my pole saw to drop the ends while a nephew gently pulled the wires to one side with a light rope.
The tops were problematic because of the other trees under it. I ended up trimming the other trees to get clearance to swing them with my lowering rope. I got in a hurry though and left too much trunk to drop. I had a five ton dump driver and loader waiting about two hours for it, so I decided to use my pretty terrific felling skills to lay 35 feet of it down next to the house.
To my horror, after putting the felling notch in it, and while plunge cutting (bore cut?) behind it, my saw sunk in a spit out some punky wood. It had a rotten core. I was commited at that point (what would you do?) and made the finishing back cut (face cut?) and it split and twisted on the drop, and slid off the hillside at hit the house! Lucky for me it was a brick house, and no apparent damage was done. All in all I dodged a bullet on that one and learned (once again) not to take short cuts.
Note I did have a doubled bull rope on the but end, but when it split it slipped out of the rope, and away it went!.
I finally took that tree down today. It's been a week of bitter cold and the job took about twice as long as I planned. When I bid the job it was pleasant Fall weather.
I technicaled the heck out of that one. I parked my dump truck under it and put a 40' ladder in the bed. I only got on the ladder after I supported the major limb with my lowering rope, and tied the ladder onto the limb. Only then did I get on it (from the top) and used my pole saw to drop the ends while a nephew gently pulled the wires to one side with a light rope.
The tops were problematic because of the other trees under it. I ended up trimming the other trees to get clearance to swing them with my lowering rope. I got in a hurry though and left too much trunk to drop. I had a five ton dump driver and loader waiting about two hours for it, so I decided to use my pretty terrific felling skills to lay 35 feet of it down next to the house.
To my horror, after putting the felling notch in it, and while plunge cutting (bore cut?) behind it, my saw sunk in a spit out some punky wood. It had a rotten core. I was commited at that point (what would you do?) and made the finishing back cut (face cut?) and it split and twisted on the drop, and slid off the hillside at hit the house! Lucky for me it was a brick house, and no apparent damage was done. All in all I dodged a bullet on that one and learned (once again) not to take short cuts.
Note I did have a doubled bull rope on the but end, but when it split it slipped out of the rope, and away it went!.
ropensaddle
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I finally took that tree down today. It's been a week of bitter cold and the job took about twice as long as I planned. When I bid the job it was pleasant Fall weather.
I technicaled the heck out of that one. I parked my dump truck under it and put a 40' ladder in the bed. I only got on the ladder after I supported the major limb with my lowering rope, and tied the ladder onto the limb. Only then did I get on it (from the top) and used my pole saw to drop the ends while a nephew gently pulled the wires to one side with a light rope.
The tops were problematic because of the other trees under it. I ended up trimming the other trees to get clearance to swing them with my lowering rope. I got in a hurry though and left too much trunk to drop. I had a five ton dump driver and loader waiting about two hours for it, so I decided to use my pretty terrific felling skills to lay 35 feet of it down next to the house.
To my horror, after putting the felling notch in it, and while plunge cutting (bore cut?) behind it, my saw sunk in a spit out some punky wood. It had a rotten core. I was commited at that point (what would you do?) and made the finishing back cut (face cut?) and it split and twisted on the drop, and slid off the hillside at hit the house! Lucky for me it was a brick house, and no apparent damage was done. All in all I dodged a bullet on that one and learned (once again) not to take short cuts.
Note I did have a doubled bull rope on the but end, but when it split it slipped out of the rope, and away it went!.
So you hit the house with a log? Did you tell the owner to look for cracks inside the house? Sounds a bit sketchy sorry to be blunt but that is a no no. If I drop a trunk and there is any chance it could reach the house I will climb a few feet make my notch and kerf marks to prevent tear outs then if there is a variation the stick is shorted enough to miss the house. Your reputation is all you have and you must protect it at any cost.
PS: sometimes just making the notch higher on the stump like chest level is enough to make it clear:monkey:
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Sounds like that butt wasn't tied good enough. You should of expected the worst and double checked yourself.
Jeff
Jeff
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True that! I ran the rope over a low "Y"in the portion I had left to fell and the tree split right there, leaving me with a good rope attachment to the part still standing. It was complex. I have to go back for final clean up I see if I can get an "aftermath" photo.
