treeman82
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First thing I noticed was the free climbing.. are you trying to be a hot shot? Other than the things others have already commented about on here, is wrapping your thumbs.
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treemandan
Tree Freak
I have to come clean:
Nails, yer a dam joke. I remember you told us you actually went to some school to teach people how to do this work. And you are always trying to impress us with what you know. I admit I bought into it but now I am dropping the bomb. You suck. You say you have years and years of training and experiance and you put up this BS. Yeah, you are just a hotshot kid. You got no disipline or respect, your safety margins don't exist. Your dad is going to get you killed along with who knows what. Hacks at best, wannabes for sure. No, I am sorry, having the equipment don't make you a treeman. I put up with your BS this long and now no more. You need to go back to school. You are not my peer but fall far below and you can kiss my butt while you are down there. They say a picture says a thousand words so your video is a novel of crap. You try to pawn that off in hopes of a pat on the back from all the guys here? ANy pat you get is from those just as dumb. All of your crew are complete morons to go into battle like that. I was thinking eveybody was just tired or still sleepin. When the day comes that you do fall out of the tree I will say " I told you so" . You want to act like you are such a tough guy treeman? I can see right through it, your dad puts you up to it and its actually child abuse. I don't know who to call first, OSHA or Child Welfare Service. Bone apetite' dude. I am doing you a favor by telling you this.
Nails, yer a dam joke. I remember you told us you actually went to some school to teach people how to do this work. And you are always trying to impress us with what you know. I admit I bought into it but now I am dropping the bomb. You suck. You say you have years and years of training and experiance and you put up this BS. Yeah, you are just a hotshot kid. You got no disipline or respect, your safety margins don't exist. Your dad is going to get you killed along with who knows what. Hacks at best, wannabes for sure. No, I am sorry, having the equipment don't make you a treeman. I put up with your BS this long and now no more. You need to go back to school. You are not my peer but fall far below and you can kiss my butt while you are down there. They say a picture says a thousand words so your video is a novel of crap. You try to pawn that off in hopes of a pat on the back from all the guys here? ANy pat you get is from those just as dumb. All of your crew are complete morons to go into battle like that. I was thinking eveybody was just tired or still sleepin. When the day comes that you do fall out of the tree I will say " I told you so" . You want to act like you are such a tough guy treeman? I can see right through it, your dad puts you up to it and its actually child abuse. I don't know who to call first, OSHA or Child Welfare Service. Bone apetite' dude. I am doing you a favor by telling you this.
treemandan
Tree Freak
lets add it up
1. free climbing
2. beat rigging rope
3. hitting people on the ground
4. crossing hands while cutting
5. can't cut for crap
6. lack of safety margin
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Freakin hack-a -ma-jack
1. free climbing
2. beat rigging rope
3. hitting people on the ground
4. crossing hands while cutting
5. can't cut for crap
6. lack of safety margin
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Freakin hack-a -ma-jack
treemandan
Tree Freak
And Treeco? Shut up.
prentice110
SpongeBob Fap Pants
Wow. Some of you guys are just plain mean. JK
Dadatwins
Addicted to ArboristSite
Try not to hold back Dan, but you are right. There is some positive to the work and I will not dismiss the whole operation. There is a lot of room for improvement, and we all started somewhere. I will admit to not following every saftey rule in the book when I first started and spent years in a ball cap thinking I was to cool for a helmet. Live and learn, I just hope he learns before something bad happens.
Dadatwins
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No we see potential problems and try to teach those that do not know better or think it does not matter because they will never get hurt.
GIZROID
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Ditto to all of the obvious safety issues esp. the free climbing. I know 2 guys who have fallen while climbing to set a tip. What if you were to encounter bees on the way up? I don't see anything productive about the way some of these points were brought up though. I thought that it was odd that you were using a rescue pulley to rig with instead of an arborist block. Does anyone else do this?
Nailsbeats
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It's a remote for the camera Dan, not a watch. Put up a vid of you and your crew. I am just trying to do the best I can, and at this point your rhetoric is a 0% factor in that.
I appreciate the responses from everyone so far. The reason I wanted to get a helmet cam is to criticque and streamline my work. I am working on it and am by no means trying to show off in an arrogant way. The video never lies, but it doesn't tell the whole story either.
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treemandan
Tree Freak
treemandan
Tree Freak
Really? Last time I told you freeclimbing was for hotshots your reply was F YOU. So screw the rhetoric.
treemandan
Tree Freak
And the guys I work with get it all the time so don't feel bad, don't feel as though I am singling you out Nails.
Nails,
thanks for the vid. and to the others slamming him your points could of come across in a more productive way. I don't think Nails has ever claimed to be an almighty veteran climber. There are only very few of us here that can claim that. A few years ago, I remember when he was climbing with a rear handle and chain for a lanyard if im not mitsaken? It was suggested he do things a bit differently and he has improved. Albeit, is not perfect, but I think he would enjoy the constructive criticism without the insults as he welcomed/learned from in the past.
I wont beat a horse on his safety habit. I will make a few suggestions.
I do suggest pulling that screen out of the 200t, it is not revving high enough. It also looks like a 16" bar, 14" is more balanced on the 200t. I also think double wrapping some of those limbs/logs is unecessary and is definitely slower. Knotless rigging is overated and is weak link in rigging big. Dad or bro should of set your tip while your putting your gear on. The throwball should be the first thing out of the truck before a climb. Tell him what crotch you want and test before ascend. On a small crew of 1 ropeman and 1 groundman... Leave that noisy chucknduck chipper off until you come down, brush should be staged. until you are done lowering. More on chipper, time for newer. Your bro's attention should be on assiting the man in the tree in combo with dad, not chipping. Crew is a little light, holding you back from rigging bigger. Adding another ground man or two could allow you to rig much larger(although you were prolly at limits with the dead tree). Tell dad they do make XL hardhats for real tree men.
There is more, but the main thing is Nails is a hardworker and has the ability of being at the top of this game. We all started with mistakes, some of us have improved some and some don't want to improve. I believe Nails is the type to strive for improvement. Good luck bro and keep posting the vids!
thanks for the vid. and to the others slamming him your points could of come across in a more productive way. I don't think Nails has ever claimed to be an almighty veteran climber. There are only very few of us here that can claim that. A few years ago, I remember when he was climbing with a rear handle and chain for a lanyard if im not mitsaken? It was suggested he do things a bit differently and he has improved. Albeit, is not perfect, but I think he would enjoy the constructive criticism without the insults as he welcomed/learned from in the past.
I wont beat a horse on his safety habit. I will make a few suggestions.
I do suggest pulling that screen out of the 200t, it is not revving high enough. It also looks like a 16" bar, 14" is more balanced on the 200t. I also think double wrapping some of those limbs/logs is unecessary and is definitely slower. Knotless rigging is overated and is weak link in rigging big. Dad or bro should of set your tip while your putting your gear on. The throwball should be the first thing out of the truck before a climb. Tell him what crotch you want and test before ascend. On a small crew of 1 ropeman and 1 groundman... Leave that noisy chucknduck chipper off until you come down, brush should be staged. until you are done lowering. More on chipper, time for newer. Your bro's attention should be on assiting the man in the tree in combo with dad, not chipping. Crew is a little light, holding you back from rigging bigger. Adding another ground man or two could allow you to rig much larger(although you were prolly at limits with the dead tree). Tell dad they do make XL hardhats for real tree men.
There is more, but the main thing is Nails is a hardworker and has the ability of being at the top of this game. We all started with mistakes, some of us have improved some and some don't want to improve. I believe Nails is the type to strive for improvement. Good luck bro and keep posting the vids!
treemandan
Tree Freak
I make those previous statements after reading all the posts from Nails about how he has been climbing since a kid, his dad was a climber, about his all his training, his teaching at 4H, etc. No I wasn't trying to be productive, I was pissed.
I guess you havent been on here long enough to remember but..
he still is a young guy, in his 20's. Up until the past few years ago all he knew were teachings of his father's lineman techniques(which is far from urban enviro climbing). He has expressed all this when he first joined, never claimed to be a pro climber then, sure he may have a bigger ego now, but what climber doesn't. Give him a break or maybe show him how it's done, like you did for plasmech(kudos for that btw)
treemandan
Tree Freak
Read post 32. No, I stuck with The Nails. I don't go after people just because.
ok, my bad. Didn't realize there was a bad history between you two. let him have it. or better yet. come back with a vid making him looking like amateur. A good ol' fashion climb-off. Sorta like a climbing competition via the internet. Ha Cool!
treemandan
Tree Freak
I don't have a video recorder but you can see all my pics right here on Arborsite.com.
Rftreeman
Addicted to ArboristSite
I can say one thing about him, least he's using his head cam unlike others here and I didn't like the tip at all, to small and pretty much just a limb, I'd broke that the first time my weight went on it.
There's room for improvement but all went home safely.....this time.
There's room for improvement but all went home safely.....this time.
Treetom
ArboristSite Guru
That POV1 is nice and clear Nails. You inspire me to get the cameras out and make another video. I'd like to do a climbing video but I still can't climb because of this wrist I broke three months ago: fell out of an oak tree, free climbing. Learn from my example, bro'. Always tie in.
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