dave k
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Sam the most important thing is that you are still here to have a rant ! Get well soon
Different felling cuts and their uses.
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HILLBILLYREDNEC
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Well be thank full your still on this earth. My neck injury could have killed me but I cheated the grim reaper that time.
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RandyMac
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Sam is keeping pretty quite about it.
Makes one wonder.
Makes one wonder.
Rounder
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Everything's good here. Misread some tension. Broke all my own rules and got in a big damn hurry when a tree didn't cooperate. Don't do that!!
Feeling good this morning. Gotta go, have a good one. Didn't mean to steer the thread off course........That never happens on the F&L forum, right???? -Sam
RandyMac
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You sayin' a wee shift of the stem gave you a bit of a tap?
This may not be news to others here, but I suspect you could have more than a simple 'neck injury'...
Brian13
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Hope you heal up quick Sam!!! How is the knee, did it get hit or get twisted? Either way hope it heals back like it should.
hammerlogging
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Interesting how we call this a close call, a wake up call. I think most people would consider this the real deal.
Right back at it, eh? Maybe a chance to rest over the weekend. Maybe a chance to watch the movie I sent you.
Last 2 days I had a moment to get our next unit laid out, about 70 acres worth of dozer logging in a steep jungle. It sucks when you can't see your flaggging from more than 15 feet away, takes a lot more flagging, and hiking around to make sure I haven't duplicated my roads, getting them too close together, but that the loggers will stil be able to reach everything. Today, that work goes onto paper and into a cute little map. That'll leave some time for a walk in the park with the wife and little one.
Quite frankly I don't know if I'm more wore out from a day of planning or a day of falling, sure do cover lots of ground.
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Samlock
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Sam of Montana - I don't know a thing about your job/contract situation, but there is one thing I know: You don't get to work with a broken toe unless you absolutely have no other choice.
Hammer said a good word. Sometimes it's a good idea to lift your foot on the bench and just watch a movie.
Take care.
Sam
Hammer said a good word. Sometimes it's a good idea to lift your foot on the bench and just watch a movie.
Take care.
Sam
I wonder how many guys out there have started using GPS for this kind of work? I started using it on research units for Weyco in 1996, I think, and today am heavily reliant on my accumilated GIS database to keep track of what's done and what yet needs to be done. There's a symposium in Portland this September on using consumer-grade GPS stuff for real GIS work, probably more focused on iPhones than Garmins, but either way, the costs of doing business electronically are going down and the ease of use and time saved are going up.
Does anybody else here use the high-tech stuff in layout or any other application?
I had to use a Trimble hand held one in Wisconsin. I couldn't figure out where I was on that flat ground in order to draw things on maps. I just ran it. The brainiac guy did the downloading of photos onto it, and the downloading of the final maps.
Here, I figured out how to use a regular off the shelf one to get an azimuth to take me back from the tail tree to the landing. That was good for laying out skyline corridors. I learned how to do that by going to an AOL meeting in Oregon.
I highlighted Get An Azimuth because you have to run the actual line with a compass. Loggers did not understand that at first. The + or - 15 feet or whatever is not an acceptable error. You have to take a few clicks on the yarder, and a few on the tailtree and calculate the average azimuth, and that will usually work.
Here, I figured out how to use a regular off the shelf one to get an azimuth to take me back from the tail tree to the landing. That was good for laying out skyline corridors. I learned how to do that by going to an AOL meeting in Oregon.
I highlighted Get An Azimuth because you have to run the actual line with a compass. Loggers did not understand that at first. The + or - 15 feet or whatever is not an acceptable error. You have to take a few clicks on the yarder, and a few on the tailtree and calculate the average azimuth, and that will usually work.
I had to work with a broken toe. It was quite painful and took a long time to heal. There's nothing to be done for it, except wear sturdy shoes or boots while it is healing, and cuss a lot.
Samlock
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Oh my, haven't you heard there about sick leave?
Doc ordered me once 10 days off just because of a dislocated big toe.
I hear that. One of the programs I use lets you do traverses by feeding the azimuth to the GPS and then displays it as though it had collected the satellite data -- cleans up lousy reception really well, and keeps tolerances way closer than relying on getting a clear shot of the sky under a canopy. With this program you only need GPS points to begin and ens a traverse -- everything in between can be paced or compassed or whatever method you like and are then set as relative to the beginning and ending (opening and closing) points. That's what I wrote that manual for awhile back. Evidently the FS guys are going to use my manual as an actual training guide, so I must have done OK.
hammerlogging
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Having that much sense would make us too socialist. Home of the brave. And hardheaded. Most of us are contractors and have zero benefits or the like. And if you do get hurt, and have some sort of workers comp coverage, lets just say it can strain the relationship with the boss. Sensible? No.
Madhatte, I've thought about getting some advice on how to make a GPS work for me better. Quite frankly, in my novice hands, it doesn't seem to be too helpful, nothing more than I can do with just a topo map, sitting at a desk, doing preliminary planning. Little rock outcrops, huge timber, these things will affect where my roads actually go. And like SlowP said, when its time to locate your tower and tailholds, a few feet off can really throw off the whole thing. So, unless you've developed a method of higher accuracy, I don't find it all that helpful. Perhaps I can do my desk planning then use some advanced methods of yours to record where I've gone so that my map accurately shows what I ended up flagging on the ground. Maybe the GPS my boss gave me is just crappy- he's just dieng for me to make use of it cause he bought it and has zero idea of how to actually apply it and wants it to go to good use. I pretend I put it to good use, but I really just use the mapping software it came with to make my cute maps.
I quit a GIS class after about 2 days realizing it was going to put a severe dampening on my intended perfect GPA and plan to get off campus in 2 quick semesters and finish the rest from home. If you need GIS, hire a GIS dude or dudette, I'm in logging.
A big toe is a different beast. I broke the middle toe. The doctor said, "Wear sturdy shoes, you can go back to work."
I broke it in karate class, and after doing so decided no more karate class.
bitzer
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Hey Sam, hope you heal up quick man!
I was sitting around the fire with my old man a few years back. Throwin some whiskey down. He says to me, "Not everyone can do what you do." And I say, "What's that?" Not really sure what he was talking about. "Going out into the woods and cutting trees," he said. "Anyone can sit behind a desk or..." (gets a little blurry around that point for obvious reasons). He eventually ends it with, " I couldn't do that, walk up to a tree and cut it down and put it where you want it. There are so many things that could go wrong." There was more, but I don't recall it. I was doing a lot more saw work for the company that I worked for at the time than I am now. Just before the economy tanked. He was right though. A breed apart.
I was sitting around the fire with my old man a few years back. Throwin some whiskey down. He says to me, "Not everyone can do what you do." And I say, "What's that?" Not really sure what he was talking about. "Going out into the woods and cutting trees," he said. "Anyone can sit behind a desk or..." (gets a little blurry around that point for obvious reasons). He eventually ends it with, " I couldn't do that, walk up to a tree and cut it down and put it where you want it. There are so many things that could go wrong." There was more, but I don't recall it. I was doing a lot more saw work for the company that I worked for at the time than I am now. Just before the economy tanked. He was right though. A breed apart.
forestryworks
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Lots of grain changes down low... I'd trust the straighter grain a little higher up. Cutting in the dirt is for arborists
The holding wood is strongest in the corners.
forestryworks
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So a seedling can't become a nice tree? :monkey:
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