Any time you double your money is a good thing :msp_smile:
dissecting an earthquake chainsaw
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o8f150
Tree Freak
neighbor and i went and cut a few trees today,, the one i used run flawlessly and we where cutting oak,, we cut a 16 foot trailor load so i guess it paid for itself
Chris-PA
Where the Wild Things Are
I was looking at a spare GZ400/Ryobi muffler I had picked up, since I'm not happy with the job I did on the Earthquake muffler, plus that cat material is still in there and it does get hot (can hear it ticking down after I shut it off). But I was saving that as a spare for the McCulloch MS4018, so I looked on eBay and found another for $12. So that means I can do another mod for the Earthquake starting with a non-cat muffler.
This time I will do it like I did the one on the McCulloch and go in through the bottom to drill out the inner plate, then make a cover plate to block off the access hole. That way I should be able to keep it fairly quiet and still flow well. I also ordered a bag of miscellaneous hardware, including A/V mounts and springs, seeing as I now have two saws of this basic type. Nothing like spare parts!
This time I will do it like I did the one on the McCulloch and go in through the bottom to drill out the inner plate, then make a cover plate to block off the access hole. That way I should be able to keep it fairly quiet and still flow well. I also ordered a bag of miscellaneous hardware, including A/V mounts and springs, seeing as I now have two saws of this basic type. Nothing like spare parts!
jcsmith
Certified Shade Tree Mechanic
carb needles
Hopefully this helps someone here. On the splined needles I found that either a red or blue crimp on electrical connector can be pushed on the splines to remove lo and hi needles. I think it might work on the single and double D needles also. Anyone tried this? Chris
Hopefully this helps someone here. On the splined needles I found that either a red or blue crimp on electrical connector can be pushed on the splines to remove lo and hi needles. I think it might work on the single and double D needles also. Anyone tried this? Chris
naturelover
Tree Freak
Well, peeked into them a little more.
This one was the dirtiest, and the bar rails had the paint wore off. Looks like grass in it or something.
The kitty had a peek too... :msp_biggrin:
So got them cleaned, peeled off a couple scratched stickers, and voila!
Tore down the first one, P/C was spotless, did the carb screw mod and a little fuel and bar oil and it fired right up. Compression check shows 140psi, just like my other two have. Was hoping to see one with higher compression, but seems like 140 or so is where all of mine are at.
Did finally get to use my new tach, and tuned her to 10,500. Sounded well at 11,000 though, but turned it back cause it was only lightly 4 stroking.
Will say that this is the first time I've tached a saw for tune, and I would have never leaned it out that far by ear. I am curious as to what the Shindy 500 is set at now.
Going to start on the second one tomorrow morning, and got some poplar rounds to noodle, so one of them should get a little workout.
This one was the dirtiest, and the bar rails had the paint wore off. Looks like grass in it or something.
The kitty had a peek too... :msp_biggrin:
So got them cleaned, peeled off a couple scratched stickers, and voila!
Tore down the first one, P/C was spotless, did the carb screw mod and a little fuel and bar oil and it fired right up. Compression check shows 140psi, just like my other two have. Was hoping to see one with higher compression, but seems like 140 or so is where all of mine are at.
Did finally get to use my new tach, and tuned her to 10,500. Sounded well at 11,000 though, but turned it back cause it was only lightly 4 stroking.
Will say that this is the first time I've tached a saw for tune, and I would have never leaned it out that far by ear. I am curious as to what the Shindy 500 is set at now.
Going to start on the second one tomorrow morning, and got some poplar rounds to noodle, so one of them should get a little workout.
diggers_dad
Sawchologist
It will have directions on the package, but I usually put a thin layer on both surfaces with a q-tip, then allow them to set up for about one minute before assembly. The surfaces MUST be clean and dry. That is true with any sealant of course, but is always worth mentioning. I usually clean the surfaces thoroughly and before applying any sealant I clean again with a bit of carb cleaner on a q-tip and let it dry.
dd
diggers_dad
Sawchologist
You can get the Ryobi (Zenoah) muffler on ereplacementparts.com for $8 and change. All of the parts I've ordered for the Ryobi have fit this clone just fine, including the side adjust chain tensioner.
I used my 40cc Powerhorse today while cutting with some neighbors. It's another clone of the RedMax almost identical to the Quakes with slightly different plastics. Anyway, I set it down while I used my 361 and a friend asked to if he could use to cut some branches instead of lugging around his 032. I said "No problem." I had done a muffler mod and tune on it.
After a couple of minutes I noticed another neighbor was standing by him and they were both turning it over and giving it a good look. Before long there was third guy and they motioned me to come over. "This thing runs like a striped ape! Where did you get it?" Several more questions and comments about running it against an 021, an MS 180, Wild Thing, etc... and they were taking turns trying it out. I sold it about 5 minutes later and when I left he was still talking about how fast it ran.
Chris-PA
Where the Wild Things Are
LOL - well, I got ripped off then, but I'm not crying about $4. I combined shipping on on the bag of other bits so probably a wash anyway.You can get the Ryobi (Zenoah) muffler on ereplacementparts.com for $8 and change. All of the parts I've ordered for the Ryobi have fit this clone just fine, including the side adjust chain tensioner.
I used my 40cc Powerhorse today while cutting with some neighbors. It's another clone of the RedMax almost identical to the Quakes with slightly different plastics. Anyway, I set it down while I used my 361 and a friend asked to if he could use to cut some branches instead of lugging around his 032. I said "No problem." I had done a muffler mod and tune on it.
After a couple of minutes I noticed another neighbor was standing by him and they were both turning it over and giving it a good look. Before long there was third guy and they motioned me to come over. "This thing runs like a striped ape! Where did you get it?" Several more questions and comments about running it against an 021, an MS 180, Wild Thing, etc... and they were taking turns trying it out. I sold it about 5 minutes later and when I left he was still talking about how fast it ran.
That's a cool story about the PowerHorse. RedMax really had a good design, and I'd like for someone to run my modded Earthquake without any preconceived opinions about it. Someone who's run an MS210 or MS230. I'm taking it over to my Dad's next time I go over to help cut, and I'll see what he thinks of it.
diggers_dad
Sawchologist
Whoops! Left that part out. The guy with the 021 was trounced by the Powerhorse. Badly. In his defense the little Stihl was bone stock and I can't speak as to whether or not the chain was anywhere near sharp.
He did sneak over before I left and asked me where he might locate one like the Powerhorse for himself... :msp_wink:
Chris-PA
Where the Wild Things Are
Is the Powerhorese modified?
naturelover
Tree Freak
found out a little something just now about the Quakes.
Pulling the choke out automagically sets the fast idle. I always pulled the trigger, choked it, then let the trigger loose.
Course I might be the only one who didn't know this, but there's my little tip for the day..
Pulling the choke out automagically sets the fast idle. I always pulled the trigger, choked it, then let the trigger loose.
Course I might be the only one who didn't know this, but there's my little tip for the day..
dswensen
ArboristSite Guru
found out a little something just now about the Quakes.
Pulling the choke out automagically sets the fast idle. I always pulled the trigger, choked it, then let the trigger loose.
Course I might be the only one who didn't know this, but there's my little tip for the day..
Yep, and pushing the choke lever back in WITHOUT pulling the trigger leaves the saw with choke-off, fast-idle-on
diggers_dad
Sawchologist
The only mod to the Powerhorse was opening up the muffler. Although it was made by a different factory in China, they apparently had the exact same muffler blueprint. I noticed when I was working on the muffler that the exhaust port was significantly larger than the 38 cc Quakes. The Horse was well used when I got it and needed a carburetor rebuild along with the muffler and a re-tune. I didn't mess with the base gasket 'cause it was holding around 200 psi when I checked the compression.
found out a little something just now about the Quakes.
Pulling the choke out automagically sets the fast idle. I always pulled the trigger, choked it, then let the trigger loose.
Course I might be the only one who didn't know this, but there's my little tip for the day..
Someone doesn't read the directions before using equipment...
oke:dd
The only mod to the Powerhorse was opening up the muffler. Although it was made by a different factory in China, they apparently had the exact same muffler blueprint. I noticed when I was working on the muffler that the exhaust port was significantly larger than the 38 cc Quakes. The Horse was well used when I got it and needed a carburetor rebuild along with the muffler and a re-tune. I didn't mess with the base gasket 'cause it was holding around 200 psi when I checked the compression.
Someone doesn't read the directions before using equipment...
dd
Directions ?? What is that? :msp_w00t:
My first one didn't have any ! LOL Got the whole shootin match with this one ! LOL
Dang !! I don't see any cheap ones left on that site !! Knew I should have grabbed 2 more !
naturelover
Tree Freak
....
Someone doesn't read the directions before using equipment...
dd
You wanna know the bad part?
I did...
This thread.
This thread is the bane of AS.
This thread is the bane of AS.
diggers_dad
Sawchologist
My friend, we ALL should have grabbed two more when they were $35 shipped...
You wanna know the bad part?
I did...
Oh.
Well, let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I've done that and worse... several times.
This thread is the whole POINT of AS. Cheap saws that run and are a fun project to modify and learn on without huge expense. 08 and others letting us know they're cheap and where to get them. Sharing tips on what works and doesn't. Giving each other ideas about what to do and what we've already learned from our modifications.
Man - this thread is what AS is all about! Share the CAD!
If I didn't have to buy saws from Europe I wouldn't, I'd buy American saws, but there are none.
But I sure as #### ain't buying them from China. They already have enough of our $.
But I sure as #### ain't buying them from China. They already have enough of our $.
stihl023/5
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No we borrow theirs.
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